@AI_EmeraldApple The whole corpus of Christian theology, all the Church Fathers and Mothers, are absolutely clear. All abortion is murder. Always is. It's not some slogan or compartmentalized theology.
"You shall not procure [an] abortion, nor destroy a newborn child" (Didache 2:1–2 [A.D. 70])
@akastyrReal@SNSwagger@darlingstrawbie@powdury Silly cultural prot, the Church has always been against abortion.
"You shall not procure [an] abortion, nor destroy a newborn child" (Didache 2:1–2 [A.D. 70])
@Selena_Augusta@luvmyjaide Contradictory opinions exist under the same umbrella because neither make a universally binding truth claim. One being "(in)valid" requires an objective standard to judge it against. Without building "true feminism" to set a standard, calling Beauvoir's "invalid" is only opinion.
@Selena_Augusta@luvmyjaide There's no argument to be had since you can't say one stance is less/non-feminist. There's only a plurality of equally valid opinions. Freidan's position cannot negate Beauvoir's. You're right, but so is OP. There's no issue as long as there's no true feminist position.
@Selena_Augusta@luvmyjaide Then you can't say "The issue [...] is" as there's no issue or normative stance here. You can invoke Friedan, but it doesn't change the validity of, or rebuke, Beauvoir's statement, as there are no normative stances. It may look better, but it doesn't do anything meaning-wise.
@Selena_Augusta@luvmyjaide If you're going to say there's an issue with quoting Beauvoir as if she weren't a real feminist, make the point that Friedan had the real-feminist opinion in this case. Otherwise you've just got two opposites, neither having the claim of orthodoxy, of being real feminism.
@Oh_Pee_Em@cranbypaws_ See, the hywhyte man created order and cleanliness as tools of opression, as these two things are foreign to anyone else. In a more cultured tongue, "ypipo don be seezunin dey streetz"
@RichardHanania Should be obvious to anyone with a brain. Feminists have been doing what Lowe has done now all the time. All these "stats" on sexual abuse are clearly way overblown to demonize men and secure political leverage.
@lllllllstop@seamus_coughlin What classical Greek and Roman ideas were rekindled? The enlightenment specifically was atheistic, driven by empiricism and scientism. It did not put any faith in immaterial transcendental existence. You're a lefty, aren't you?
@lllllllstop@seamus_coughlin You're illiterate. What pagan philosophies were our societies based on? Humanism caused the Renaissance (term itself coined by a Christian painter), and atheistic rationalism by means of Cartesian doubt caused the other. All this led to our hyperindividualist-consumerist society.
@lllllllstop@seamus_coughlin I pity you, you're worse than a protestant, you're an atheist that thinks paganism was just a set of normatives. Pagan texts, of which the majority come from Christian sources, are very few. You're a man in a graveyard seeking life, digging up dust and arranging it as you like.
@nordic_bard @seamus_coughlin My reply mentioned the static point in regard to your reply. My first post didn't include it, but noted the need for unbroken succession, a passing down of tradition, a living connection to initiate you in the mysteries. Modern pagans and protestants are the same; outside it all.