Mandarin and Taiwanese language learner. Child of Taiwanese immigrants, reclaiming my roots. Associate Professor of Statistics at Villanova University.
@abarber1 That's a fair question. Pretty high, but I certainly know of cases where it was denied due to teaching.
There's also a denominator question. To get hired at these schools, you have to demonstrate then that you have potential to be a great teacher
@abarber1 And this is exactly what I didn't know as a HS student, and I think most people don't. Different schools have different strengths and priorities, and some actually require their faculty to be great teachers
@abarber1 Again depends on the school. At any R1, you are absolutely correct.
But at schools like Cal Poly or any other school that highly prioritizes teaching (many liberal arts colleges, some regional universities), you absolutely must be excellent at teaching to get tenure
@abarber1 So at Cal Poly, faculty are incentivized to be as good at teaching as they can. Research is secondary; to get tenure, you must demonstrate excellent teaching.
@abarber1 It depends on the school, and/or position within that school. Tenure-line faculty at any state school, Ivy or other "elite" schools must prioritize research to get tenure.
My first job was at Cal Poly SLO, where excellent teaching is explicitly prioritized above research.
@abarber1 I also recognize that "quality of education" has other factors besides the classroom experience, and again I regret nothing about going to Michigan.
But I just think this side of things doesn't get talked about enough.
@abarber1 As a HS student, I had no idea the range of expectations on the pure teaching side of things that existed on faculty at different schools.
Myself and my colleagues at Villanova are better at teaching than like 90% of my UM profs, for example.
@MineDogucu @Macalester My brief interactions with both Alicia and Victor give me a similar impression, and if I didn't love where I am currently, I would be jealous of anyone who is in a position to apply right now (maybe I still am a little bit!)
@karissachen My reaction is befuddling to me, because I don't feel this way at all about non-native English speakers who might have a strong accent when speaking English.
So why do I feel this way about a language that I'm not even fully fluent in?
@karissachen This is approximately me as well. Also, when a native English speaker has tone issues, it can be super grating to me. Which then makes me feel like an asshole, esp since I'm not really in any position to judge...