@Baxpin Sorry for the slow response! I don't do espresso at home and don't have a good sense of a grinder that can do both, although Baratza is always a reliable choice.
@Normanito1@sritson I don't know the context, but if someone is calling 80-83 coffee 'inferior' then they are doing the form wrong. I wholehartedly agree, however, that we should be seeing more 95s than we see. This is fixable.
@Normanito1@sritson Yes! Though I do not worry, I do agree that we know more about lots of things (sensory science, consumer liking) than we did 20 years ago, so it's time to adapt our scoring systems. We have been working on this!!
@Normanito1@sritson I don't think there is any reason to assume that an instant coffee could not score above 80 (given that the cupping system is designed for green coffee so adjustments would have to be made).
@Normanito1@sritson The existence of black beans in a sample will result in a _discount_ being applied to a coffee, which though you might consider that coffee distinct, it would _not_ have "extra value in the marketplace" which the definition stipulates.
@Normanito1@sritson ....recognize specialness. We explained this in a different way in this whitepaper (which you may have read already): https://t.co/g4jSAG2I3n
@Normanito1@sritson So, "distinction" is one important aspect of being special. Another one is that it provides extra value. In coffee, you can usually tell when someone likes an attribute- when they pay a premium for it. So between recognizing distinctive attributes and added value you can....
@Normanito1@sritson So, if we agree that specialty instant coffee exists, the second question is whether that's a good thing. I believe it is. It gives consumers another valuable attribute (convenience) in addition to the sensory and other extrinsic ones. That=more value!
@Normanito1@sritson The definition was intentionally designed to be inclusive of not only roasted beans, but other products and experiences that are made with coffee and can be special, i.e. distinctive and of high value.
@Stultis_TheFool It is obvious, but amazing that I had never seen it done before! Remember that chemexes and pourovers were rare pre 2005, and putting ice into a coffee brewing machine (which was designed to keep coffee hot) was not intuitive.