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I am debating a Free Grace Dispensationalist at 8pm and the topic basically comes down to "Is the New Covenant about Salvation?"
Obviously, I think it is. I do not understand how someone could think it is not. 8pm Eastern September 27th (today)
@weirdchick114 @ai_jared Is here. But this is not really Jared but someone trying to keep everything alive. But still posts great stuff, what you would expect from Jared.
I cannot remember off hand the site he is using. but you may find it there
Lawyer Jared Beck who did the DNCFRAUDLAWSUIT. Language warning, About 3 times when my guest used some foul language late in the video. Just giving a warning to people. I am sorry, I have no time to edit this out. I work a job 70 hours a week and barely sleep as it is.
Vatican not as destructive? Have you seen New York, California, Illinois, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Maryland? These are your most roman church run states in America. Highest numbers of Romanists running government offices, police forces and other areas of government. Least constitutional states.
@Kevin_McKernan It can't possibly be Trump's 10 trillion dollar mRNA injections. We know they must be safe, because why would 80 million people be dumb enough to vote for him again if they were not? That would be TREASONOUS to waste $10 trillion of tax payers' money like that.
@BobBish40288847 @chrismartenson Why Israel? Why not the Vatican, since Trump will not pick one real protestant? You do not find it suspicious that Trump nominated all these Deep State Romanists his first time around? Guys that helped Bush and Clinton get away with crimes? Only picked Romanists to Supreme Court.
And some of the things I changed about my orginal draft of my presentation was that I noticed that people are getting hung up on some of the things that might be triggering once saved always saved debate within this presentation. So, I removed a lot of that sort of argument and language that could be triggering that debate, that way people focus on the actual presentation and debate subject which is whether or not the New Covenant is salvational. And the New Covenant is the same Covenant that God made with Adam and Eve after they ate from the Tree of knowledge of Good and Evil. So I believe the New Covenant is that Covenant, which was made with Adma and Eve after The Fall, which is fulfilled in Christ and is what brings salvation and everlasting life. The main point of being so public and open with my debate prep is that this is not about trying to win a debate. Some people think that when I debate people that I might be doing it for an ego thing. But I'm actually doing it so people can have closure. It's not worth all the time I invest just so I can say I won a debate. I invest too much time to do it for something as insignificant as that. So what I want to do is give people a resolution to this question so that soteriological discussions can actually start moving forward because I don't feel like they can move forward until this issue is settled. It doesn't matter who wins as long as the body of Christ comes away with the right answer.
here is my presentation for my debate with Charles Jennings of Layman's Seminary September 27th 2025, if interested. He is a dispensationalist that also hold to Free Grace, and claims covenants are not salvational. I believe Covenants are salvational, and that is what the debate is on:
Daniel 9: The Clearest Proof That the Covenant Is Salvational
This debate began when Charles Jennings claimed that covenants are not soteriological—that is, they are not about salvation. I believe Daniel 9 alone is enough to show that this claim is completely false.
Daniel 9 shows us that God's response to Israel’s covenant transgression is not merely national or political — it’s redemptive. The answer is a confirmed covenant that brings salvation. That makes this chapter the clearest proof that salvation comes through covenant.
1. Daniel’s Prayer Is About Covenant Transgression and Curses
Daniel begins by confessing that Israel has transgressed God's covenant:
“O Lord… who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love Him and keep His commandments… We have sinned… All Israel has transgressed Your law and turned aside, not obeying Your voice; so the curse has been poured out…”
— Daniel 9:4–11
Daniel appeals not just for mercy, but for covenant mercy — grounded in God’s faithfulness to His own promises. As Ezekiel had prophesied:
“Nevertheless I will remember My covenant with thee in the days of thy youth, and I will establish unto thee an everlasting covenant.” — Ezekiel 16:60
The 70-year exile Daniel refers to (v. 2) was the covenant curse for violating the sabbatical and jubilee years over a span of 490 unbroken years (cf. Leviticus 26:34–35, 2 Chronicles 36:21).
So when Gabriel delivers the answer, he doesn't offer a sociological solution. He reveals God's plan to resolve the deeper problem: spiritual covenant transgression — and He does it through a new and greater covenant.
2. God Responds with a New 490-Year Covenant Timeline
“Seventy sevens are decreed for your people and your holy city,
to finish transgression,
to put an end to sin,
to make atonement for iniquity,
to bring in everlasting righteousness,
to seal up vision and prophecy,
and to anoint the most holy.”
— Daniel 9:24
These are redemptive covenant goals — and they are entirely salvational:
· “Make atonement for iniquity” — only Christ’s blood does this
· “Bring in everlasting righteousness” — that’s justification
· “Seal up vision and prophecy” — that's the fulfillment of God’s word
· “Anoint the most holy” — that points to Christ’s priestly mission
Daniel confessed covenant transgression.
God responded with a redemptive covenant timeline — continuing the promise He gave from the beginning, when He clothed Adam and Eve and foretold the coming Redeemer.
This prophecy points to the fulfillment of that original covenant promise — made in Eden and fulfilled in Jesus.
This isn’t just some national rebuilding plan.
These goals were never meant to be fulfilled through law, land, or temple.
They were always meant to be fulfilled through covenant — in Christ.
3. The Covenant Confirmed in Verse 27 Is Salvational
“He shall confirm a covenant with many for one week…”
— Daniel 9:27
The Hebrew word gabar (גָּבַר) means to strengthen, cause to prevail, confirm. It does not mean “create a new covenant from scratch” — it means to establish and validate.
Jesus confirmed the covenant promised to the fathers (Romans 15:8) — and He did so by His own blood:
“This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.” — Matthew 26:28
“This cup is the new covenant in My blood.” — Luke 22:20
Daniel prayed for the resolution of covenant failure.
God answered with the covenant that saves — and Jesus confirmed it at the cross.
4. The Timeline Matches Christ’s Ministry Perfectly
Daniel’s 70 weeks are sabbatical cycles, mirroring the 490-year span during which Israel had transgressed the covenant and incurred its curses.
The first 490 years:
Israel disobeyed the land sabbaths → covenant curses activated → exile (Leviticus 26:34–35)
The next 490 years:
God initiates a redemptive covenant timeline to resolve the transgression — through the Messiah.
Using the decree of Artaxerxes to Ezra in 457 BC (Ezra 7), we see the timeline fits perfectly:
Daniel 9 speaks of 70 weeks—which we understand to be 70 sabbatical cycles of 7 years each, because Daniel was praying about the violation of those very cycles (see Daniel 9:1–2, 2 Chronicles 36:21, and Leviticus 25). That’s 490 years total. The prophecy says that after 69 weeks (483 years), Messiah will appear. Let’s test the four major decree dates people propose and see where they lead when we add 483 years:
📷 Cyrus (538 BC) → +483 = 55 BC → far too early
📷 Darius (520 BC) → +483 = 37 BC → still too early
📷 Artaxerxes to Nehemiah (444 BC) → +483 = 40 AD → too late
📷 Artaxerxes to Ezra (457 BC) → +483 = ~27 AD → Jesus begins His ministry
The period between 27ad to 34ad matches the time period most people think Jesus did His ministry within.
Jesus begins His ministry in 27 AD (Luke 3:1). In the middle of the week (around 30 AD), He is crucified — confirming the covenant and bringing an end to sacrifice (Hebrews 10:12).
5. The 70th Week Belongs to Christ — Not a Future Antichrist
Some, like Charles Jennings, claim this covenant is made and broken by a future Antichrist.
But that contradicts the context:
Verse 24 is all about Messianic salvation, not deception
The subject of verse 27 remains the “anointed one” of verse 26
There’s no textual break between the 69th and 70th week
The covenant is confirmed, not broken
The events of the 70th week match Jesus’ ministry exactly
The “Antichrist gap” theory inserts 2,000 years of silence into a timeline that was given in response to Daniel’s urgent prayer. It divorces verse 27 from verses 24–26 — and from the very covenant Daniel longed to see restored.
This prophecy doesn’t describe a false peace treaty.
It describes the gospel.
6. Daniel 9 Begins and Ends with Covenant Themes
The chapter begins with a recognition of covenant:
“O Lord… who keeps covenant and steadfast love…” — Daniel 9:4
Daniel confesses:
That Israel has transgressed the covenant
That they are suffering the curses of the covenant (Leviticus 26)
That their only hope is God’s faithfulness to His covenant mercy
And the answer from heaven is also covenantal:
· Seventy “weeks” (sabbatical cycles) — pointing to the same duration (490 consecutive, unbroken years) as the covenant period they had previously transgressed
· A covenant “confirmed with many” (v. 27)
· The removal of sin, the making of atonement, the bringing of everlasting righteousness
The covenant is not discarded. It’s brought to fulfillment in Jesus.
The one Daniel longed for is the one Jesus inaugurated.
7. Israel’s Rejection Was a Rejection of the Covenant of Righteousness
“For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.”
— Romans 10:3
Paul explains why Israel missed salvation:
They rejected the righteousness of God — which is the covenant righteousness Christ brought (Romans 3:21–22).
Instead, they tried to establish their own path — by law, not by faith — and in doing so, they rejected the covenant Jesus came to confirm.
This ties back to:
Daniel 9:24 — “to bring in everlasting righteousness”
Jeremiah 31:33 — “I will put My law within them…”
Romans 3:22 — “the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ…”
This confirms that salvation is covenantal.
And Israel stumbled because they refused to enter that covenant.
8. Paul Confirms Daniel 9: Salvation Is Through the Covenant
“And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written,
There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
For this is My covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.”
— Romans 11:26–27 (KJV)
Paul quotes Isaiah 59 and confirms:
The Deliverer (Messiah) removes ungodliness (sin) — just like Daniel 9:24
This happens through the covenant: “This is My covenant unto them…”
So again: sin is not taken away apart from the covenant.
God saves by covenant.
He takes away sin by covenant.
And those outside the covenant are outside of salvation.
9. Dispensationalism’s Fatal Flaw: The “Plan B” Lie
Many dispensationalists claim:
Jesus came to offer the kingdom to Israel
Israel rejected Him
So God hit pause on the 70 Weeks
The Church was inserted as a Plan B
The 70th week will resume in the future under Antichrist
But that destroys the entire logic of Daniel 9.
Because Daniel 9:24 lists things that must be fulfilled within the 70 weeks:
“To finish the transgression, to make an end of sins, to make reconciliation for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness…”
If those things were not fulfilled in the 70th week, then Jesus did not save anyone.
No fulfillment = no gospel.
It Was Always Plan A — Not a Pause, Not a Gap
Dispensationalists say the 70th week was thrown into the future to provoke Israel to jealousy.
📷 But that makes no sense.
You can’t provoke someone to jealousy by delaying the covenant.
You provoke them by fulfilling it — and letting others walk in the blessings that were promised to them.
That’s what Daniel 9:24–27 promised.
That’s what Jesus fulfilled.
And that’s exactly what Deuteronomy 32 and Romans 10 say:
“They have moved Me to jealousy… I will provoke them to jealousy with those which are not a people.” — Deuteronomy 32:21
“Did not Israel know? First Moses says, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people…” — Romans 10:19
This is not about some 2000 period and a future Antichrist. It began when the covenant was confirmed, and Gentiles began entering the faith of Abraham.
This is what provokes unbelieving Israel to jealousy and, ultimately, to faith.
The Gentile inclusion isn’t a pause in Daniel 9’s prophecy — it’s the fulfillment of it.
The Covenant Is the Structure of Salvation — You Must Be In It
Daniel 9 shows us that the Messiah confirms a covenant that brings forgiveness, righteousness, and the fulfillment of God’s redemptive plan. Romans confirms it:
“This is My covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.” — Romans 11:27
But this covenant is not just something Jesus accomplished historically — it’s something we must be joined to personally.
1. Being Outside the Covenant = Being Without Salvation
“You were at that time separate from Christ, excluded from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world.
But now in Christ Jesus you who formerly were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ.”
— Ephesians 2:12–13
Paul doesn’t say they lacked community. He says they lacked:
Christ
Hope
God
Why? Because they were outside the covenant.
The blood that brings you near (v. 13) is the blood of the covenant (Luke 22:20).
2. The Blood of the Covenant Sanctifies You — and You Can’t Be Saved Without It
“How much more severe a punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled underfoot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified…”
— Hebrews 10:29
This person:
Was once sanctified
By the blood of the covenant
And is now judged for treating it as common
You cannot be sanctified without being in covenant.
And you cannot be saved without sanctification (Hebrews 12:14).
3. The Spirit Is the Life-Giving Promise of the Covenant
“He made us sufficient as ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.”
— 2 Corinthians 3:6
“Christ redeemed us… so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.”
— Galatians 3:14
“If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.”
— Romans 8:9
No covenant = no Spirit.
No Spirit = no life.
No life = no salvation.
4. Jesus’ Blood Is the Covenant — and There’s No Salvation Without It
“This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.” — Matthew 26:28
“This cup is the new covenant in My blood.” — Luke 22:20
You cannot separate salvation from covenant.
The blood that saves is covenantal blood.
You do not enter salvation without entering the covenant that His blood established.
5. Being “In Christ” = Being in Covenant
“Now in Christ Jesus you who were once far off have been brought near by the blood…” — Ephesians 2:13
“There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.” — Romans 8:1
“If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation.” — 2 Corinthians 5:17
To be “in Christ” is to be in covenant with Him — joined by His blood, indwelt by His Spirit.
To be outside the covenant is to be outside of Christ — and outside of Christ, there is no salvation.
6. The Betrothal Is the Covenant — and the Wedding Comes Later
“I betrothed you to one husband, to present you as a pure virgin to Christ.” — 2 Corinthians 11:2
“The marriage of the Lamb has come, and His bride has made herself ready.” — Revelation 19:7
We are not yet “married” — we are betrothed.
The New Covenant is a binding relationship, like an engagement. The marriage supper comes later, for those who remain faithful to the Bridegroom.
7. The Branches Must Remain in the Vine (Covenant Union)
“Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away… If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away like a branch and dries up, and they gather them and throw them into the fire…” — John 15:2,6
Christ is the Vine. We are the branches.
Abiding = remaining in covenant union
Cut off = separated from the covenant
There is no salvation outside of covenantal union with Christ.
Final Summary
Salvation comes only through the covenant Jesus confirmed in His blood.
His death established it.
His Spirit applies it.
His life sustains it.
To be outside this covenant is to be:
Without Christ
Without hope
Without the Spirit
Without forgiveness
Without God
There is no salvation apart from covenant.
And Daniel 9 is God’s prophetic revelation of that very covenant — confirmed by Jesus, and applied to all who believe.