Ngl mfs only like lolis for the ero stuff these days. Lolicons used to respect and protect their moe girls, but now it just feels like ppl like these characters to trigger the libs. It's so soy and normie.
@Rain_Rans@ChibiReviews However after clarification I do think your position is pretty reasonable and makes sense on some level but I think your framing the people who say she's clearly an adult in the wrong manner since again that's overall what her appearance gives off
@Rain_Rans@ChibiReviews My overall point is that you cant really say she has the body type/appearance of a teen just because some of her traits are commonly associated with teens since in context they don't give off that appearance. It being more realistic doesn't really change that in my opinion-
@Rain_Rans@ChibiReviews She's a fictional character so you using the example of a classroom with teenagers doesn't work since we never see her in those contexts. and sure overall some of those qualities might be more common in teens but in context they give of more the pettiness/cuteness of an adult
@Rain_Rans@ChibiReviews Ok but she’s not in a high school classroom and even if she was I would still disagree. Like yeah she has a “baby face” and some petiteness to her but those are very common traits in adults and I think that’s clearly what was visually trying to be conveyed here
@Rain_Rans@ChibiReviews Meh I think her design clearly conveys the idea that she is an adult and absolutely dosent convey that of a loli or teenager. Sure some teens may look like evie in some contexts but I think calling it a “teenage body type” dosent really make sense in this case
@Chaosxx227 Got it that clarifies most of my confusion than so thanks. I do disagree as I think that yes being gay so you like gay fiction makes sense but liking gay fiction doesn’t imply being gay in any context
but im not here to argue though and I do still agree with your overall point
@Chaosxx227 So are you saying that being attracted to male characters doesn’t necessarily have anything to with their gender but if you are specifically attracted to them for being male then it probably reflects on real attraction?
@k_sharple@DioFroggy@ohanashidesuwa@lifts_her_tail2 Your argument is that what it eroticizes justifies morally judging it. I am asking why you think that if you can’t actually answer that than I see no reason to continue this conversation
@k_sharple@DioFroggy@ohanashidesuwa@lifts_her_tail2 It does mean it should be viewed as morally neutral actually. and you still haven’t answered how what it eroticies is morally relevant without vaguely appealing to how it’s “disgusting”
@k_sharple@DioFroggy@ohanashidesuwa@lifts_her_tail2 AGAIN how does what it eroticizes justify moral objection???? and yeah I do think moral concern is only valid when based on actual harm why would I think otherwise lmao
@k_sharple@DioFroggy@ohanashidesuwa@lifts_her_tail2 My moral standard is based on if you have plausible reason to assume harm which is simple, effective and fair. while you continue to appeal to what’s disturbing or socially viewed as weird which can and has been a justification for deplorable behaviour
@k_sharple@DioFroggy@ohanashidesuwa@lifts_her_tail2 again what is that judgement grounded in that makes it justified. Most of the time people just say they are personally disgusted in it which dosent justify moral judgement right?
@k_sharple@DioFroggy@ohanashidesuwa@lifts_her_tail2 We’re degenerates in the sense that we do things that are seen as socially weird but we clearly don’t found our morals based on public perception of something. I think you can agree that founding your morals on that would be pretty stupid no?
@k_sharple@DioFroggy@ohanashidesuwa@lifts_her_tail2 So than what is that moral judging based on than? From what I’m seeing all your saying is that it’s socially perceived as weird which is really stupid to found your morals on
@k_sharple@DioFroggy@ohanashidesuwa@lifts_her_tail2 so why is it morally judgeable than what grounds do you have to say that? because just pointing out “what it sexualizes” doesn’t mean anything in this case when the indulgence in the concept has no more harm than indulgence in other fictional concepts
@k_sharple@DioFroggy@ohanashidesuwa@lifts_her_tail2 So does your claim only apply to lolicons than?? or if not than please outline what type of sexual preference your claim is specifically in reference to
@k_sharple@DioFroggy@ohanashidesuwa@lifts_her_tail2 No not really saying someone is “pedo adjacent” kinda implies that you think it’s more likely someone is a pedo. and again why would you judge or clearly say accusatory/strong statements for harmless behaviour?