Colby

Quaesitor; doctoral student in pharmacotherapeutics; interested in too many things at once; overly familiar with doubt, for better or worse

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@SchnieI @darwintojesus Lo and behold, someone that does not understand Christian theology like they think they do.

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Christians don’t believe “3 beings = 1 being”. There is one God, one divine Being, eternally existing as three Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. God’s inner life is beyond creaturely categories, and Muslims may reject that, but at least be honest about what Christians profess

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Abortion is gravely evil, and this reveals the cruel eugenic thinking our culture has accepted.

But evil is not answered with contempt, damnation, or hatred. We may condemn the act without judging the soul.

Pray for the child, the parents’ repentance and healing, and a culture that no longer calls this compassion.

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Abortion is gravely evil, and this reveals the cruel eugenic thinking our culture has accepted.

But evil is not answered with contempt, damnation, or hatred. We may condemn the act without judging the soul.

Pray for the child, the parents’ repentance and healing, and a culture that no longer calls this compassion.

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The photo is of an Augustinian symposium, & was a Christian inculturation exercise on St. Augustine & ecology.

Kneeling was respect for God’s creation in Andean cultural form, not Pachamama worship. There was no idol statue. Participants said it was symbolic humility, not worship.

Leo XIV has even said that “No one should… submit to [nature] as a slave or worshipper.”

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@SchrockNat79945 @God_Nationalist @Arma__Christi

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@SchrockNat79945 @God_Nationalist @Arma__Christi Nah, I didn’t run away, I just don’t live on this app, and you seem to use AI to validate whatever you want to believe, so I don’t care to waste too much time on this conversation lol

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@SchrockNat79945 @God_Nationalist @Arma__Christi I literally skimmed to a random part, saw that it was AI, and took a screenshot lol. 6 or 7 (hahaha funny numbers) seconds max. The text below your “ancestry” stuff is clearly sycophantic LLM content.

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@SchrockNat79945 @God_Nationalist @Arma__Christi This is not ChatGPT in your notes app, is it, Nathan? Or is it Grok? Maybe some other LLM?

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@SchrockNat79945 @GringoPapist Hmm, let’s see: ad hominem, poisoning the well, sweeping generalization, and oversimplification. Maybe loaded framing, too. Those are the only fallacies I see for now…

I’d call the ambiguity and historical reductivism argumentative weaknesses, but not really standard fallacies.

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Christian doctrine is: one God, one divine essence, three distinct Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The Son is not a creature or a second god. He is the eternal Word of God, truly divine, who became man.

That is why Qur’an 5:116 is relevant because it has Jesus denying that he told people to take him and Mary as deities besides Allah. But Christians don’t worship Mary and the doctrine of the Trinity is not Father-Jesus-Mary. Christians also don’t believe God had a biological son.

So quoting verses where the Qur’an says “don’t say three,” “Allah is not the third of three,” or “God has not taken a son” does not refute Nicene Christianity because the Qur’an does not even know what Nicene Christianity teaches.

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@The1ClearTruth @centroFJ @InspiringPhilos Qur’an 5:116 shows that Mohammad did not understand the central doctrine of the Christian faith, the Trinity. It has Jesus rejecting a “me and my mother as two gods” triad in the context of denying Allah as 3 gods. It is a purely unserious caricature.

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@proMHFMcatholic @Xtopher_Uzo https://t.co/oXYySsZJnH

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Timeline of “extra Ecclesiam nulla salus” (EENS):

1302, Unam Sanctam: outside the one Church there is neither salvation nor remission of sins

1949, Holy Office under Pius XII: EENS is true, but must be read as the Church reads it; the invincibly ignorant may be united to the Church by implicit desire

1950, Humani Generis: do not reduce the necessity of belonging to the true Church to a meaningless formula

1964, Lumen Gentium 14–16: the Church is necessary for salvation; those saved outside visible Catholic membership are saved by grace, through Christ and His Church

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@Xtopher_Uzo https://t.co/oXYySsZJnH

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Timeline of “extra Ecclesiam nulla salus” (EENS):

1302, Unam Sanctam: outside the one Church there is neither salvation nor remission of sins

1949, Holy Office under Pius XII: EENS is true, but must be read as the Church reads it; the invincibly ignorant may be united to the Church by implicit desire

1950, Humani Generis: do not reduce the necessity of belonging to the true Church to a meaningless formula

1964, Lumen Gentium 14–16: the Church is necessary for salvation; those saved outside visible Catholic membership are saved by grace, through Christ and His Church

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Timeline of “extra Ecclesiam nulla salus” (EENS):

1302, Unam Sanctam: outside the one Church there is neither salvation nor remission of sins

1949, Holy Office under Pius XII: EENS is true, but must be read as the Church reads it; the invincibly ignorant may be united to the Church by implicit desire

1950, Humani Generis: do not reduce the necessity of belonging to the true Church to a meaningless formula

1964, Lumen Gentium 14–16: the Church is necessary for salvation; those saved outside visible Catholic membership are saved by grace, through Christ and His Church

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Pius XII’s Holy Office rejected the claim that EENS means only visible, formal Catholics can possibly be saved. But it also rejected indifferentism. The Church’s position is that there is no salvation outside the Church; yet some may be united to the Church by explicit or implicit desire, and if they are saved, they are saved through Christ and his Catholic Church, not through false religion as such.

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Doctrine remains that Christ alone saves and that all salvation comes through Christ and his Church. Lumen Gentium 16 says some non-Christians may be saved if, through no fault of their own, they do not know the Gospel, sincerely seek God, and cooperate with grace. It does not say false doctrine saves them. In fact, LG 14 and 17 reaffirm the necessity of the Church and the duty of mission.

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“I was in formation” does not rescue poor argumentation. If after five years of study, you are still reading Isaiah 45:7 as though Hebrew raʿ automatically means moral evil (I went through some of your other replies and they are equally as poorly supported as your’s here), then your confidence is not evidence of expertise, you are just flattening text to fit your polemic, similar to non-denominational/evangelical types. You have to argue with what the Church actually teaches, and one can open up the nearest Catechism and see that you clearly are not capable of doing that.

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Hell was a doctrine that was developed? That is actually devastating to my understanding (sarcasm, if you are unsure)… The Church has always distinguished Sheol/Hades, Gehenna, Christ’s descent to the dead, and final damnation. What is actually devastating is fallaciously equating doctrinal development with doctrinal invention, which is what you did.

And yes, some later martyrdom accounts contain legendary and apocryphal material, but that does not make all early martyrdom testimony fiction, nor does it address the actual doctrine you are trying (lol) to discuss.

Jesus said the gate is narrow as a warning against presumption. It serves no implication that God predestines souls to hell, no matter how much you twist it to do that.

The only thing about Catholicism that you have exposed is that you confuse your fanatical caricature as having done research, which is actually quite tragic.

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The Church does not teach that God gleefully damns people for accidents, weakness, ignorance, or momentary imperfection. Mortal sin is not “one mistake”; and real repentance is not a loophole, but true conversion of heart; faith without charity is dead.

Hell is the definitive loss of communion with God by a will that refuses grace to the end. God predestines no one to hell; damnation involves persistent mortal sin and final impenitence.

And not to mention the arrogance in thinking that a Reddit-tier caricature of hell, faith, repentance, or Scripture somehow demolishes 2,000 years of theology, philosophy, martyrdom, and mysticism.