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[Frog @Quididityorange]

@tenshi_anna @johnmilbank3 Clause 4 is an interesting piece of Labour Party history; it stated that the Labour Party”s goal is control of the means of production. Tony Blair dropped it. Anyway there is lots of interesting things there; and you know me I love the quotidian world of newspapers and so on!

[Frog @Quididityorange]

@tenshi_anna @johnmilbank3 I am writing an essay called the metaphysics of the Labour Party. But it’s deeper then that; but there is something interesting in linking the particular + everyday to bigger things, plus the idea happened kind of randomly. Anyway I hope ur well + its great to hear from u again!

[Frog @Quididityorange]

@defaultmuse Germany is quite unique in having such promise + expectation as a nation; but before it really gets going it ends in disaster and now it seems irrelevance. Can the German spirit be revived? Seems an interesting project! That other Europe of grand visions on the open plain.

[Frog @Quididityorange]

@Nina_Power_ But the task now seems to be something like having a sense of societal peace that allows for discord, genuine plurality, darkness and originality etc. Maybe UK could lead on this. Love will break the mold.

[Frog @Quididityorange]

@Nina_Power_ Yeh it’s just day 2 of Woke 2.0 and I am already fed up with it (even tho I was broadly supportive of the vibe shift); its conformity + persecution etc. But at least there is some element of institutionalism, rule following, transparency; that may (or not) limit how bad it can be

[Frog @Quididityorange]

@Nina_Power_ By JJ is not talking about your persecution fetish; but the embrace of finitude in the arms of God! Only joking, I am not being mean, it’s just a joke. The persecution is real probably. And probably has metaphysical significance. I am sure you’re right!

[Frog @Quididityorange]

@Nina_Power_ “Save me from those therrble prongs!” It reminded me of this phrase in the last page of finnegans wake. I have never read the whole book, have you? But I know the last page nearly from memory. “So. Avelaval. My leaves have drifted from me”. Is also a nice phrase. It’s deep imo.

[Frog @Quididityorange]

@deontologistics Nature has a telos; why should we resist that?

[Frog @Quididityorange]

@timothy_stanley @PaulEmbery Surely the problem is one is trying to merge a left and a right that have been formed not to merge but to exist dialectically or whatever! To overcome the binary you need creative new thinking and new paradigms! I think we are ready for this and it will start to take shape soon!

[Frog @Quididityorange]

@Zookemnukem @tafphorisms Yeah but I think the argument was about a recent decline since the 2010s; and a supposed Yookayification. Honestly there is a fair bit of optimism in the UK atm; Britains history + institutions give it a certain stability + dynamism in this complicated new world.

[Frog @Quididityorange]

@tafphorisms And it’s no more or less multicultural then anywhere else in the west; so again the decline narrative is nonsense really. Although gdp numbers haven’t been great in europe in comparison to America in last 20 years. But I don’t think that’s enough to justify this decline narrative

[Frog @Quididityorange]

@tafphorisms How has the UK declined? It feels pretty normal to me. I go to US a lot and you could easily make the same case for it having declined. In terms of big cultural exports; I feel that sort of thing is at a nadir globally, so again I don’t get!

[Frog @Quididityorange]

@verdur_in Not the deepest take has I haven’t studied it so much. But I feel even this kind of existential not that idealistic idealism would be far to idealistic for us nowadays; I feel now we have truly drained the well of idealism/spirit etc

[Frog @Quididityorange]

@verdur_in Idk it feels like it has a very definite aura that is very different from now; I don’t see why one couldn’t theorise, study, explain that. Not that closeness wouldn’t introduce distortions. But I think we are ready. An idealistic euphoria of bare existence is my take for now.

[Frog @Quididityorange]

@johnmilbank3 I like Edwardian baroque; it’s an architecture of civic exuberance.

[Frog @Quididityorange]

@saturnine_grace That reminds me of this book I saw at the tram museum, I took a photo because I thought it was funny and maybe ott; but actually it’s probably true. I would have bought it if it wasn’t over 30 pounds. I am sure it has some unique information.

[Frog @Quididityorange]

@saturnine_grace Perhaps Roosevelt new deal would be symbolic of other America; but really the whole 20th century had more egalitarian holistic society vibe. Really I think if you are on the left there is such an open door to a great narrative. Value orientated, spiritual, egalitarian, americana