@pluant@Joeinblack@melodymlyons You said that it was extremely perilous to teach men that they mediate Christ's authority, which is exactly wrong. It's extremely perilous not to teach them this. They are called to be images of Christ to their wives and children, and to exercise their authority after his own.
@pluant@Joeinblack@melodymlyons A husband has authority over his wife which comes from and is modeled on Christ. In discerning marriage, both parties need to evaluate their ability to live out that relationship well. The woman should evaluate the man's ability to wield authority, and he her ability to submit.
@pluant@Joeinblack@melodymlyons The only way to exercise any authority well is to acknowledge it as coming from Christ. What's the alternative? Any kind of authority creates an opportunity for abuse. The answer isn't to tear it all down.
@Joeinblack@melodymlyons Why is that? Being willing to submit to the authority of Christ mediated through another is important for a wife, as it is for a priest. Evaluating the capacity for that is part of priestly discernment. Why should it not be within marital discernment?
@zacdayvis How did the TLM make you do that? So then you were bitter and arrogant and thought people shouldn't be able to have the NO, whereas now you're bitter and arrogant and think people shouldn't be able to have the TLM. What's to blame now? The NO? Slop.
@SteveSkojec Immorality is precisely the shaping of the person into something they weren't meant to be. What opposition between the two did you learn? St. Thomas says that God is only offended by us when we act against our own good.
@lukei4655 Our Lord preached about Hell, and so did many of the great saints and Doctors of the Church. Why do you think that your pedagogy is better than theirs?
@USCCB Why don't you say something about his faith or personal holiness like you would for any other Venerable commemorated by the Church? If we're to see his life as a witness to something, shouldn't it be fidelity to the God who was so good to him?
@BVMConsolatrix What a terribly stupid and scandalous thing for a Catholic priest to say. The fact that there are and have always been bad bishops doesn't make it an "insult" to have what canon law requires and what the liturgy asks of us.
@KoramProNobis@RorateCaeli How does it help to"ask for permission" when you're just going to do it anyway? That doesn't work in any hierarchy. "Unchecked" meaning outside of the practical authority of the Pope and the Bishops in communion with him? No, they weren't going to let that happen. Deo gratias.
@X_Thesista@cath_menarion So because the Church is indefectible it now subsists not as a visible union headed by the successor of St. Peter, but rather in a gnostic cult in Florida or Pennsylvania or some such place with a schismatic bishop? You don't see that something's gone wrong in your reasoning?
@CullumSmith@EricRSammons Denouncing the consecrations doesn't necessarily come from a desire for the SSPX to schism or be excommunicated. I oppose the consecrations precisely because I very much don't want those things, and would rather the Society have a regular relationship with Rome.
@DrKwasniewski So the "fidelium" are the people who left the Church rather than assist at the NO? And a rite isn't received if a fraction of a percentage of people don't adopt it? This all seems like post hoc rationalization.
@MoresJustus@Joseph_DeMarzo@sspx@SSPXEN The person he's asking to speak with isn't the Pope, who's responsible for the entire Church. Proportionally he's much closer in office to the person with whom he's trying to speak.
@AnnMalleyBooks@EricRSammons@CullumSmith No, there wasn't "must accept" out of hand. The purpose of the dialogue was explicitly to discuss what level of assent was owed to various contents of V2.