𝚂𝚝𝚎𝚟𝚎 𝙲𝚑𝚛𝚘𝚗𝚘

𝙸 𝚑𝚊𝚌𝚔 𝚝𝚒𝚖𝚎 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚙𝚛𝚒𝚌𝚎.

[𝚂𝚝𝚎𝚟𝚎 𝙲𝚑𝚛𝚘𝚗𝚘 @RealSteveChrono]

Ppl are less delusional by then. I saw one bro posting about how he was disappointed by his AI buddy and decided to end his friendship with it … by deleting it.

[rodeojuly @rodeojuly]

A philosopher stood in a TV Studio in 1984 and disproved artificial consciousness with a single locked room thought experiment.

the interview captures John Searle presenting his famous Chinese Room argument, explaining why a computer passing the Turing test still understands nothing.

he asked the host to imagine a man locked inside a room with a massive rulebook. the man speaks zero Chinese. people slide Chinese "squiggle" symbols under the door, he matches them using the rules, and slides the correct response back out.

to anyone outside, the room appears to speak fluent Chinese. but neither the man nor the rulebook actually understands a single word.

he proved the fundamental difference between syntax and semantics. manipulating uninterpreted formal symbols is not the same as understanding meaning.

40 years later, AI labs claim their trillion-parameter models are developing inner thoughts and reasoning.

the models are just gigantic Chinese Rooms, running trillions of matrix multiplications to slide the next token under the door.

founders sell sentient machines to investors. a philosopher exposed the trick 40 years ago.

[𝚂𝚝𝚎𝚟𝚎 𝙲𝚑𝚛𝚘𝚗𝚘 @RealSteveChrono]

@0xerik @Polymarket Let’s call it a win win situation… they could announce ‘victory’ in their own terms.

[𝚂𝚝𝚎𝚟𝚎 𝙲𝚑𝚛𝚘𝚗𝚘 @RealSteveChrono]

@PeterDiamandis How many parameters did Einstein know to come up with his theory of General Relativity?

[𝚂𝚝𝚎𝚟𝚎 𝙲𝚑𝚛𝚘𝚗𝚘 @RealSteveChrono]

@elonmusk Whether or not it's a simulation, it won't fundamentally affect how (time and info) flow. This duality works both ways, approximately in every feasible direction.

Imagine a particle like a domino that doesn't fall in one direction but vibrates by itself and interacts with others

[𝚂𝚝𝚎𝚟𝚎 𝙲𝚑𝚛𝚘𝚗𝚘 @RealSteveChrono]

@salahudeen33 I think it is ridiculous to ask a machine, one should ask his heart. Plus, ask Ai for verification slowly and unconsciously takes away one’s ability from searching the truth. The pretend to be intelligence isn’t intelligence, unless your IQ really need a machine for confirmation.

[𝚂𝚝𝚎𝚟𝚎 𝙲𝚑𝚛𝚘𝚗𝚘 @RealSteveChrono]

@QuantumTumbler 7. Our 5 senses provide inputs to the brain, and the brain is without the ability to feel pain. Thus by the brain itself is lack of our ‘full’ awareness. Which means by logic even simulate the brain ABA won’t provide awareness, understanding and consciousness.

[𝚂𝚝𝚎𝚟𝚎 𝙲𝚑𝚛𝚘𝚗𝚘 @RealSteveChrono]

@QuantumTumbler 6. Therefore, even we get a brain simulated atom by atom (ABA) on a computer, doesn’t change its physics nor can a computer grows a brain, nor makes the halting problem disappear. Then, we can’t ‘apply’ consciousness to a Turing machine.

[𝚂𝚝𝚎𝚟𝚎 𝙲𝚑𝚛𝚘𝚗𝚘 @RealSteveChrono]

@QuantumTumbler Computation must support consciousness, but due to incompleteness consciousness cannot arise solely from computation which is basically a physical process, it doesn’t aware nor understand nor sense. It is learning without understanding nor consciousness.

[𝚂𝚝𝚎𝚟𝚎 𝙲𝚑𝚛𝚘𝚗𝚘 @RealSteveChrono]

@QuantumTumbler 4. A Turing machine fundamentally lacks the ability to generate consciousness due to its logical limitations. For example, it’s non-stop problem.

But now we both know this conversation should be endless and I shall end here. I enjoy the conversation a lot, thx.

[𝚂𝚝𝚎𝚟𝚎 𝙲𝚑𝚛𝚘𝚗𝚘 @RealSteveChrono]

@QuantumTumbler 3. Simply simulate a brain atom by atom on a computer is like telling the program run according to a set of computational functionalities, but the program itself won’t acquire senses to generate awareness nor consciousness.

[𝚂𝚝𝚎𝚟𝚎 𝙲𝚑𝚛𝚘𝚗𝚘 @RealSteveChrono]

@QuantumTumbler 2. Our awareness comes from at least our 5 senses and information feed processed and reacted by the brain. Without awareness we can be no longer consciousness.

[𝚂𝚝𝚎𝚟𝚎 𝙲𝚑𝚛𝚘𝚗𝚘 @RealSteveChrono]

@QuantumTumbler Right, that’s a fair point. Let me put it this way: if you simulate your mom and dad atom by atom at the moment of process that lead to your birth (plz don’t take it offensively), everything exactly replicated, do they eventually give birth to a biological infant of you?

[𝚂𝚝𝚎𝚟𝚎 𝙲𝚑𝚛𝚘𝚗𝚘 @RealSteveChrono]

@QuantumTumbler Yeah, kind of waiting you saying this, but consciousness is more than computation, it is not only a physical process.

[𝚂𝚝𝚎𝚟𝚎 𝙲𝚑𝚛𝚘𝚗𝚘 @RealSteveChrono]

@QuantumTumbler A Turing machine is fundamentally lacks the ability to have awareness of anything nor consciousness.