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lol this sounds bizarrely accusatory to me. I must not have read your previous post very carefully because I didn't see that you'd asked what she did with the money. I don't doubt that you did. I'm happy to take your word for it. (At this point, I'm frankly not interested enough to check). I can assure you, however, that this was only from inattention on my part, not any desire to evade any of your questions.

Evidently, we've approached this conversation in very different ways. I'm interested in the topic, but it's not urgently important to me. It's the weekend, and I was engaging in this discussion while doing lots of other things. I didn't view your previous post as an assignment I was supposed to complete, with a list of questions I was required to answer lol. I also didn't regard our discussion as a debate, but instead as a friendly and casual conversation. I was actually very heartened by this. It seemed like a welcome departure from the adversarial encounters so common on this site. From your most recent tweet, and the fifteen or others that follow it, I can see that you didn't share my view. I now regret having let my guard down a bit and admit to feeling foolish about it.

I also regret it if I gave you the wrong impression about my intentions in this discussion. Again, however, I can assure you that I was engaging with you in good faith and did not deliberately evade any questions you may have asked. In any case, it seems clear that it's best not to prolong this any further, so I'll end things here. I wish you the best and hope you have a lovely weekend.

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According to ChatGpt, the gofundme raised 648K. Her speaking fees are between 30-50K according to one source, and between 40-75K according to another. These seem like pretty big numbers to me, but candidly, without knowing how many speaking engagements she does, and, again, without knowing the expenses she's incurred as a result of the controversy, it's hard to say how much she's actually benefitted monetarily from the controversy.

I'm not sure what to make of how long Ford waited to write/publish her book or about using metoo to position herself as a feminist icon. I can imagine reasons why it might have made sense for her to lay low for a while. And it's possible that she was able to enjoy her status as a darling of the left without actively seeking to become a celebrity.

The upshot of all of this is that I certainly agree there's isn't overwhelming evidence to suggest that Ford accused Kavanaugh primarily for the purpose of seeking financial gain or status. While this is partly due to a lack of information, I should say that, personally, I simply didn't get that vibe from Ford. FWIW, I *did* get that vibe about, say, Julie Swetnick, at least to some degree. In Anita Hill's case, my intuition told me that while money probably wasn't much of a motive, politics might well have been.

I would't say, however, that money, fame, and ideological opposition to Kavanaugh are the only potential motives or explanations for why Ford might have lied about Kavanaugh. And while these are my own personal views, I don't regard as unreasonable those who take a more cynical view of Ford (nor those who take a more sympathetic view).

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@SouthernKeeks

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@DannyDrinksWine Wahlberg killed it. Absolutely perfect for that role.

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@mattforney

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@wishbone6666 @Chicago_History lol yes

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Well, she's made a fair amount of money in the aftermath of incident. A 600K gofundme, tens of thousands in speaking fees, and I don't know what compensation she received for her book, but I think it can reasonably be assumed that it wasn't chump change. I have no way of knowing to what extent these earnings were offset by expenses (security, etc.) resulting from the affair.

As to reputation, she was definitely feted by the left, and she had to be aware of the example of Anita Hill. She was an obscure teacher at an obscure university before this, so probably not a huge downside from the incident.

I'm not saying that these benefits alone constitute powerful motives. But they might well be part of a larger picture.

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If your argument is only that it's *possible* that pro lifers are behind the threats, I'd agree. It's also *possible* that the couple is lying about receiving the death threats. If you're moving beyond the claim that it's possible and are actually accusing pro lifers, which is what the OP did, you need concrete evidence.

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@Libs_OfChicago @ICEgov Thirst trap. Next lol.

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@Imrans08 @JamesTate121 You're accusing folks of issuing death threats. That's an extremely serious accusation, especially against folks who define themselves as pro life. You need to have more than just speculation to support an accusation like that.

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@MattWalshBlog Note that the gentleman interviewed later in the clip said that he didn't think Karmelo should get off free, but that he objected to the Murder 1 charge. That's not tribal.

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Perhaps one way to think of it is this (and I'm just spit-balling): by her own admission, Ford remembers almost nothing of what happened on that occasion beyond the alleged assault itself. The only other detail she claims to have recalled -- Keyser's presence -- was refuted by Keyser herself (even while she underscored her support for Ford more generall). Keyser said not only that she wasn't present but that she hadn't ever even met Kavanaugh. So Ford had to have known that her memory of the incident was faulty. Maybe when people claim that Ford's lying, what they're really saying is that she recklessly disregarded the truth. She nearly destroyed Kavanaugh's life based on recollections whose accuracy she had good reason to doubt. Again, just wondering aloud.

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@SouthernKeeks @jarvis_best Because Da Pope now lives in the Vatican?

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@DCTalks1009 @baseballcrank IIRC correctly, she didn't identify Kavanaugh by name in her therapist sessions. As for her husband, if one believes Ford herself is lying, it's not difficult to believe her husband was also lying.

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@Imrans08 @JamesTate121 lol you've got it backwards, bro. It's not up to prolifers (or anyone else) to prove they didn't do something. If you believe they're responsible, you need to cite affirmative evidence for your claim. What evidence do you have that they did it?

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@Imrans08 @JamesTate121 Just about anyone but folks who consider themselves pro life.

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@Slatzism

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@Yayayoyo43 @JamesTate121 A couple "actively using pro choice"?

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There's evidence that Ford lied about some issues that were peripheral to her story about Kavanaugh. Her account of her encounter with Kavanaugh was almost certainly false on at least one point (Leland Keyser's presence at the party). That might be explained as an honest mistake. But given her story's overall lack of corroboration, it doesn't seem unreasonable for folks to conclude she was lying.