π I read the earnings calls and run the valuations so you don't have to
π Long-term investor, short-term heart rate
π₯ Building Red Candle Rx Fund. NFA
π¨ $FOUR Q2 Earnings Recap π¨
β Gross rev less network fees: $624M vs ~$615M est. (+51% YoY, +11% organic)
β Adj. EPS: $1.32 vs $1.19 to $1.25 est. (vs $1.10 YoY)
π° Adj. EBITDA: $284M vs ~$278M guided (vs $205.1M YoY)
π Blended spread: 65bps (vs 63bps YoY)
π¦ Adj. FCF: $21M vs ~$10M guided
π FY26 Guide: CUT
β³ π΅ GRLNF: $2.50B to $2.60B β $2.48B to $2.53B
β³ π΅ EPS: $5.50 to $5.70 β $5.15 to $5.35
β³ π΅ Adj. EBITDA: $1.165B to $1.215B β $1.15B to $1.18B
β³ π΅ Adj. FCF: $490M to $510M β $465M to $475M
Why the fade? π
$FOUR slid from its $53.72 close to $45.32 (-15.11%) on the guidance, not on the printed quarter. They beat every line that closed and cut every line that is still open.
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π THE DROP
This is the same movie as February. Shift4 beat on the quarter and the stock went down anyway, because this name has never traded on the printed number.
They took down all four full year metrics at once. EPS from $5.50 to $5.70 all the way to $5.15 to $5.35. That is about 6% off the midpoint in a quarter they supposedly beat.
Now look at the cash. First half adjusted free cash flow is $109M, $88M in Q1 and $21M in Q2, against a full year guide of $465M to $475M. That is roughly 77% of the year's cash still to come in the back half. π§
Q2 free cash flow alone fell 82% year over year. Management points to seasonal cash needs and refund cycles tied to Global Blue.
And strip the acquisition out: reported growth was 51%, organic was 11%. π³
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π’ THE BULL CASE
The take rate story just reversed. Blended spread came in at 65 basis points against 63 a year ago and 61 last quarter. Everyone spent two years warning that spread compression would eat this business. It is expanding.
They beat every single quarterly line. GRLNF $624M against $615M expected, EPS $1.32 against $1.19 to $1.25, EBITDA $284M against $278M guided, and free cash flow of $21M against roughly $10M guided.
EBITDA margin held 46% on $61B of volume, up 22%. The roll up still converts.
The growth optics get worse before they get better and that is already known. Global Blue closed July 3, 2025, so this was the last easy comp.
At roughly 10x the new EPS midpoint you are not paying for growth here. And 36% of the float is short at 9.5 days to cover. That cuts both ways violently.
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π§ THE TAKEAWAY
Shift4 keeps delivering quarters the market shrugs at, because the debate was never about this quarter. The spread question just got answered in their favor. The cash flow question did not.
Hold them to that $465M to $475M free cash flow guide. $109M in the first half means the back half has to do more than four times what the front half did. That is the one number they cannot adjust their way around.
Value or trap at 10x? π NFA
bro............that is them already projecting companies using their api credits/ad revenue/contracts and everything.............even their CFO was worried about their spending in respect to keeping it up with the revenue they are generating. I never once said I was an OpenAI naysayer.....I said they couldn't keep going at this pace with their spending to revenue. They are an amazing company who has been a trailblazer; but you cannot keep dominating if you do not have money. And everything I stated came from OpenAI, not an outside projection. Like I do not think you understand what I have been saying at all. It is not me not having faith in their models and success; it is that they cannot keep growing if they do not have money for what they want to do. Like literally every number I said is from openAI; you can't keep buying stuff when you can't afford it and do not have a solid plan to afford it. If they come out with a plan to do it that would be amazing, but they have not. And their internal team is literally worried about it. They have insane potential for the future but are capped by their capital access which they are simply running out of at their spending pace.
Bro OpenAi has projected $280 Billion in TOTAL revenue through 2030 while already committing roughly $750 Billion through 2030 only on computing infrastructure. Plus they don't even plan on breaking even on FCF until 2030, not even being profitable. Like that is a deficit of roughly $470 Billion. And that is all of OpenAi's projections too. And this is after they already cut their capex from an estimated $1.4 Trillion because they couldn't sustain their original plans. Like that is just not sustainable whatsoever, no matter who they are. It doesn't matter about influence at this point, they literally cannot pay for what they have planned which means they cannot keep up with their innovation over time. And on top of it too AI models keep on coming out that are getting better and better forcing AI companies to get better and better costing more and more money. And already they are almost at a $500 Billion deficit assuming everything went perfect for them through 2030. Like the math ain't mathing
@uday_devops As of right now:
1. Claude
2. Grok
3. ChatGPT
4. Gemini
BUT; lowkey I got faith in Google on the turn around play long term and low key feel like ChatGPT is going to start going down hill because they just can't sustain all their spending without more actual revenue generation
@blackbeardXBT as long is it wasn't from getting rug pulled on solana:6p6xgHyF7AeE6TZkSmFsko444wqoP15icUSqi2jfGiPN coin then you are still a legend in my eyes king