@SouthwestAir Guys, why even offer me flight options on any given date if you're just going to change everything after the fact every time I fly with you? What's the point of making me pick flight times? And, OH, this less-convenient schedule is the same price? WTF.
@SouthwestAir Then I, the inconvenienced, should be compensated when you do not deliver on the service we agreed upon when I paid you. Period. Throw me a bone here. discount my fare. Offer me priority seating. Maybe I get to meet the captain. Something more substantial than a tweet.
@eymmayeuh@noorazla@abbygov My male friends are great. We’ve all come a long way on our own. Would that we had a greater influence from our role models and the broader culture at large when we were younger.
@eymmayeuh@abbygov I think my big mistake here was in how I described my notion of a movement outside of Feminism. Hopefully this clarifies what I’m driving at:
https://t.co/UaguTeswXj
@noorazla@eymmayeuh@abbygov Ok, perhaps part of the problem here is my use of the term “movement”. Let me try and draw a distinction:
Feminism (big F) being formal organizations like NOW.
feminism (little f) being the concept of gender equality.
I envision a ‘movement’ among men under the idea of small f.
@noorazla@eymmayeuh@abbygov Meaning, men push other men to be better. Men lead by example explicitly to their friends, co-workers and family, demonstrating how to be a Man but also how to be a Person first. If that is underway, I just haven’t witnessed it yet.
@noorazla@eymmayeuh@abbygov Ok, perhaps part of the problem here is my use of the term “movement”. Let me try and draw a distinction:
Feminism (big F) being formal organizations like NOW.
feminism (little f) being the concept of gender equality.
I envision a ‘movement’ among men under the idea of small f.
The CDC released a study of people who died of COVID-19 with the best first look at race, ethnicity & underlying conditions.
Summary coming. Then a link. Follow if interested.
@eymmayeuh@abbygov It depends. I abhor Axe products for their over-the-top machismo. But I’m not so much into floral prints and the color pink. Maybe that’s my cultural programming, I dunno.
@EveOCative@eymmayeuh@abbygov If that can be kindled under the aegis of the formal Feminist movement (big F as opposed to little f), then awesome. But I’m just saying, from my experience, I haven’t seen it. So here’s a guy calling out other guys to do so. That’s literally what I’m talking about.
@EveOCative@eymmayeuh@abbygov Or maybe it already does, and I just haven’t seen it. My impression of the formal Feminist movement is something run by women for women, and the men in their lives join their ranks in support. I have not seen an organic movement among men calling out other men to be better...
@EveOCative@eymmayeuh@abbygov I’ve never said this movement would be ONLY for men, just that it would target them.
And 100% about becoming a PERSON. That would be the fundamental idea.
Maybe I’m gonna look back on this discussion in the future and cringe. I just want men to be better. This was my idea.
@eymmayeuh@noorazla@abbygov Let me try a new tact:
How have I demonstrated to you that I am *not* a Feminist? I consider myself one, but maybe I’m not. Tell me where I’m going wrong.
@eymmayeuh@abbygov And... women don’t buy products that are packaged in flowery boxes or pretty bows?
Look, what exactly is wrong with branding a message for an audience? Especially if it gets the results you (we) want?
It feels like everyone I’m replying to here assumes I’m calling out Feminism.
@noorazla@eymmayeuh@abbygov As I’ve said elsewhere in here, being a feminist and a part of this theoretical movement for men is not mutually exclusive.
I don’t see it as a counter-force to feminism. It’s a partner force.
@EveOCative@eymmayeuh@abbygov I, as a man, can’t ever fully understand what it is like to be a woman. You, as a woman, can’t ever fully understand what it’s like to be a man. Let’s not tell each other how to be.
Feminism can greatly inform men about the other half of the population, but not ourselves.
@EveOCative@eymmayeuh@abbygov Not being defensive here, just trying (and apparently failing) to communicate an idea.
Also, the “1000s of years of men telling women what they need” is exactly what I’m referring to when I’m talking about contradiction.
And you also know how frustrating it is to be dismissed.
@eymmayeuh@abbygov I remember how old I was when I learned how often (daily) you experience men’s unwanted attention such as cat-calls/creepy behavior. I had no idea before, because no one told me.
But I also know women tell each other about men all the time. You know us better than we know you.