@Mcphearson56942@AnClaiomhSolais If Ireland had joined the war that would have only increased the likelihood of Nazi invasion, and tied up British troops which would have garrisoned the Irish coastline. And so Irish neutrality was the best option, the one which would have assisted the war effort the most.
@Mcphearson56942@AnClaiomhSolais I’m not sure how more clear I can be but I have a suspicion you’re being purposely obtuse. MI5 stated that Ireland was more useful neutral, it wasn’t them reacting as geopolitical pragmatism, they viewed Ireland as more useful as neutral. So how was it idiotic?
@Mcphearson56942@AnClaiomhSolais You seem to be the one with the chip on your shoulder. It’s very strange you continuously bringing up unrelated grievances you have with Ireland when we’re discussing its neutrality in WWII. Coming off more as a rant, than an argument.
@Mcphearson56942@AnClaiomhSolais MI5 assessment isn’t irrelevant. MI5 assessed that Ireland was of more use to the war effort neutral, that carries weight, if assistance is more beneficial than direct involvement, than assistance is the best option.
@Mcphearson56942@AnClaiomhSolais It’s not nonsense. MI5 valued Irish neutrality more than Ireland actively joining the war. https://t.co/nx1gLFF9Sr
It seems you have some very strong negative feelings about Ireland, perhaps you should get a dog or a relationship and put that energy into something productive.
@danielthemate Ireland does not have a ‘Jew hating problem’. Ireland has a low antisemitic-incident rate. This is a single video of a single person, not a representation of the nation.
@englishwriteway@ZzVvbbbbn A ‘certain segment of our population’ is not making us look like that. Ireland has low antisemitic-incidents rates. It’s the constant attacks against Ireland that have popped up, singling out Ireland, and making a big deal when something happens in Ireland but not anywhere else.
@AlexMLeo Yes I’m aware ofthe plant. But you must realise that many other European countries have far larger trade relations with Russia. This is not an issue unique to Ireland and does not mean Ireland ‘supports Russia’. This one issue does not outweigh the support Ireland has for Ukraine
@Mcphearson56942@AnClaiomhSolais No it wasn’t, as the UK deemed that a neutral Ireland which helped the Allies was more beneficial than one which directly entered the war. Also the majority of nations involved in WWII were neutral before being attacked.
@AlexMLeo Ireland does not ‘help the Russians’. Ireland has been very supportive of Ukraine and its resistance against Russian aggression. For example Ireland taking in over 80,000 Ukrainian refugees.
@Mr__Comics@Peachy_As_Hell The UUP developed the early NI state to sideline Catholic influence through gerrymander and abolishment of PR And although NI can constitutionally leave the UK the mechanism of how isn’t defined So to say NI was always Democratic and that they can leave at anytime is disingenuous
@FinalWrangler@Oddloaf1@DeutschWatamate@BillTheKid1603 I think Ireland definitely should do more in terms of aid, Germany and the UK have contributed more aid I’m not disputing that. But Ireland has taken in over 80,000 Ukrainian refugees, which has costed the Irish state and shows Ireland’s goal isn’t war profiteering.
@FinalWrangler@Oddloaf1@DeutschWatamate@BillTheKid1603 I’m not sure what you think 80% of Irish alumina exports going to Russia implies about Ireland. I think Ireland shouldn’t been exporting it. But many other states in the EU hold equivalent of greater trade relations with Russia.
@FinalWrangler@Oddloaf1@DeutschWatamate@BillTheKid1603 I’m not comparing Irish trade to the entirety of the EU, but to individual EU states. I’m not doing this to villainise them. I think Ireland can do a lot better, I think the plant should be shut down. But to frame Ireland as an outlier is completely incorrect.
@EnglishByGrace@Goblin_Greeb@BillTheKid1603 I’m not stating that the English working class weren’t treated poorly. I never brought up the IRA. I’m not blanketing anyone. I’m just stating that the people of Ireland were not treated equivalently to the English working class by the British State.