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[Zenith @ReturningZenith]

@RobotInDisgust @8BitClosedFist Collective subjectivity is still subjectivity. That’s argumentum ad populum, a textbook fallacy. If truth is a group project, the majority was right about geocentrism and slavery, and every dissenter was wrong. And “saying it doesn’t make it true” applies to you too.

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@alecsbutt @8BitClosedFist What did the Christians do to you?

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@AmberStawicki @No_billionair @PoliSciChick84 How do I benefit? We are spending at a deficit. Social Security is an unfunded liability. You are literally selling future generations into debt slavery.

What you’re really telling me is that democracy has had its run and that we need something else.

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@Umcabaqualquer1 @8BitClosedFist Democracy.

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@Dayman67890 @8BitClosedFist Read your Bible.

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Chibi

[Joel Webbon @JoelWebbon]

Democracy is how Jesus was crucified.

A ruler abdicated his authority to the people, and the Jewish lobby took advantage.

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@RevKimWChafee @ScottChafee @FromPulpitToPew Description isn't prescription. Scripture records what people did; commands tell us what to do. And when Paul gives his own opinion, he says so: "I, not the Lord" (1 Cor 7:12). In 1 Tim 2 he doesn't. He grounds it in creation: "for Adam was formed first" (v13).

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@ScottChafee @RevKimWChafee @FromPulpitToPew Not dominance. Order. "God is not a God of confusion" (1 Cor 14:33), and "a house divided against itself cannot stand" (Mark 3:25). Order isn't the opposite of love. It's the shape God gave it. And my anatomy isn't an argument.

Ephesians 5:24 is still unanswered.

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@boltgunna @RobertPar199714 @8BitClosedFist lol

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@ScottChafee @RevKimWChafee @FromPulpitToPew That's exactly how I came to Christ. My wife lived out 1 Peter 3:1-2, and I was won without a word. The command you call a door to abuse is the one God used to save me.

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@ScottChafee @RevKimWChafee @FromPulpitToPew No one said "unconditionally." Submission never requires sin: "we must obey God rather than men" (Acts 5:29). Abuse breaks Paul's command to husbands (Eph 5:25, Col 3:19), not hers. And Peter tells wives to submit even to unbelieving husbands, that they may be won (1 Pet 3:1-2).

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@ScottChafee @RevKimWChafee @FromPulpitToPew Paul draws authority from that origin himself: "I do not permit a woman to exercise authority over a man... for Adam was formed first" (1 Tim 2:12-13). And you just affirmed order in the Trinity: begotten, proceeding. That's my point. No one here said "control."

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@ScottChafee @RevKimWChafee @FromPulpitToPew Paul: "the head of Christ is God" (1 Cor 11:3). The Son "will be subjected to him" (1 Cor 15:28). If any order in God is heresy, Paul is the heretic. Order isn't inequality: the Father sends, the Son is sent, one essence. And v24 pairs "head" with "submits." Not just source.

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@ScottChafee @RevKimWChafee @FromPulpitToPew Romans 7:2: a wife is bound to her husband while he lives; if he dies, she is released. Headship belongs to marriage. A widow is cared for by family and the church (1 Tim 5:3-16), and like every believer, men included, she submits to its male elders (Heb 13:17).

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@goflockgo @BlakeKresses @RoyalSerf Just got one from my wife.

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@ScottChafee @RevKimWChafee @FromPulpitToPew You're replying to the post where I addressed verse 21. No one skipped it. Verse 22 has no verb of its own in the Greek. It borrows "submit" from 21. So 21 doesn't cancel 22, it introduces it. Kim already agreed 22 isn't cancelled.

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@ScottChafee @RevKimWChafee @FromPulpitToPew "Wives, submit to your own husbands" (Eph 5:22, Col 3:18, Titus 2:5, 1 Pet 3:1). Peter adds that Sarah "obeyed Abraham, calling him lord" (1 Pet 3:6). That's not my lie. It's the text. And John Maxwell doesn't outrank Paul or Peter.

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@JesseKellyDC Everyone still wants to pretend we’re not broke. War is the health of the state. If the petrodollar gets dropped, it’s curtains.