Riley Chauvin-Duchesne

[Riley Chauvin-Duchesne @RileySDG7]

Christ is more real and more sure than life itself.

[Riley Chauvin-Duchesne @RileySDG7]

Proverbs 21:1 explicitly teaches God’s active sovereignty over man’s heart:

“The king’s heart is a stream of water in the hand of the LORD;
he turns it wherever he will.”

Someone may object, “Yes, but it says 'the king’s heart.' You cannot apply that to everyone.”

But that objection is logically absurd.

Is the king born in Adam? Is he a man? If the claim is that God cannot govern man’s heart without violating human "free will," then the king already disproves the claim, because the king is a man whose heart God turns wherever He wills.

And more than that, “the king” is not being used to limit the doctrine, but to heighten it. So it literally functions in the most forceful opposite direction of the "this is just for kings" logic.

The king is the most powerful, sovereign-seeming man in society. If even his heart is like a stream of water in the hand of the LORD, then how much more the hearts of ordinary men?

So Proverbs 21:1 is not giving us an obscure doctrine that applies only to kings, as though lesser men are somehow more autonomous than rulers. It gives the highest earthly case: even the king’s heart is under God’s active, particular sovereignty.

Therefore, by necessary implication, no human heart is outside His sovereign governance.

[Riley Chauvin-Duchesne @RileySDG7]

Does God ever determine whether we will sin or not sin?

Answer: Yes.

Is the human will untouchable to God?

Answer: No.

God can move, restrain, incline, or govern the human heart however He pleases, and He declares this explicitly from Genesis to Revelation.

Apart from grace, our wills are bent toward evil; therefore, God’s influence over the will is like heat to water. He can keep us from evil by warming us with restraining grace, or He can leave us to the coldness of our own corruption by withdrawing that restraint, hardening us into ice. This analogy is useful because God literally takes ownership for hardening in Scripture, yet His hardening is not an active infusion of evil. He "gives men over to their own debased minds," withdrawing the warmth of restraint, so that the heart freezes in its own corruption.

This is not speculation. Scripture says it plainly:

"Then God said to him [Abimelech] in the dream,

'Yes, I know that you have done this in the integrity of your heart,
and
➡️ it was I who kept you from sinning against me. ⬅️
Therefore
➡️I did not let you touch her.' ⬅️”

Genesis 20:6

That text is decisive. God did not merely observe Abimelech’s decision. He actively kept him from sinning. He did not merely hope Abimelech would refrain. He says, “I did not let you touch her.”

So the idea that God cannot or does not act upon the human will collapses immediately.

Scripture repeatedly gives us a God who can restrain sin, prevent sin, harden, soften, incline, awaken, blind, give over, draw, and keep.

The human will is real, and every choice is uniquely ours, but we are never outside God’s active, particular sovereignty.

[Riley Chauvin-Duchesne @RileySDG7]

@ThugLifeSproul 💯

And wanting to reach Mars (the stars)

Think Babel

[Riley Chauvin-Duchesne @RileySDG7]

Which does the following align with more?

I see 70AD sort of like I see Babel and Noah

Types

Babel --> a real event that typifies the final Babel and one world rebellious order

Flood --> a real judgment that typifies final judgment

Likewise 70AD was very real fulfilled judgment that typifies and points to the climactic judgment to come.

Does this align more with Klinean architecture or partial preterism?

[Jeff Taylor @JeffTaylorLR]

Why the New Jerusalem Is a 12,000‑Stadia Cube

(Klinean architecture)

The New Jerusalem is not a metaphor for “heaven.”
It is the final architectural form of the covenant.

A perfect cube.
12,000 stadia.
Holy of Holies geometry.

In Klinean architecture, this is not decorative.
It is the cosmic verdict.

1. The cube = the Holy of Holies.
Solomon’s inner sanctuary was a perfect cube (1 Kgs 6:20).
That room was the cosmic courtroom, the throne room of the Suzerain.
Revelation uses the same geometry to declare:
the entire new creation has become the Holy of Holies.

2. 12,000 = covenantal fullness.
Twelve = the covenant people.
A thousand = totality.
12,000 = the complete, eschatologically perfected people of God.
The city’s dimensions are covenantal, not spatial.

3. The cube signals unmediated presence.
No veil.
No gradations of holiness.
No outer courts.
The entire world is now the place of direct access.
The glory-cloud fills everything.

4. The Bride is the temple.
Revelation identifies the city with the Bride.
Kline reads this architecturally:
the people, the city, and the cosmos converge into one eschatological sanctuary.

5. This is the consummation of the Eden → Sinai → Zion → Christ → New Covenant arc.
The architectural blueprint of Scripture reaches its final form.
The world becomes the throne room.
The covenant reaches its eschatological verdict.
God dwells with His people in a cosmic Holy of Holies.

The 12,000‑stadia cube is the final declaration:
the entire new creation is the temple, the Bride, the courtroom, and the dwelling of God.
#NewJerusalem

[Riley Chauvin-Duchesne @RileySDG7]

@Heidel_bro1563 Whats quote citation

[Riley Chauvin-Duchesne @RileySDG7]

Fruit and perseverance are NOT an antecedent necessity -- something required in order to obtain, maintain, or finally secure salvation.

They are a consequent necessity -- something that necessarily follows from salvation because Christ truly saves, keeps, and sanctifies His people.

Solus Christus

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

[Riley Chauvin-Duchesne @RileySDG7]

If we are using “elect” in the before-creation, final-salvation sense Scripture repeatedly gives it, grounded in the unchangeable counsel and will of God Himself, then I do not see how this argument can be avoided.

The Bible gives us a robust and clear picture of the elect: those chosen by God, given to the Son, written in heaven, and appointed unto mercy and redemption before the foundation of the world. This heavenly writing/register precedes creation and therefore precedes each individual’s birth, faith, repentance, or sanctification.

Election is unto mercy, not unto injustice. Those not shown electing mercy are not treated harshly or wrongly, but are left to God’s righteous and good justice.

Election is also not the same category as regeneration. The elect are not regenerate from eternity. Rather, those whom God eternally chose will, in time, be made alive by the Holy Spirit, brought to faith in Christ, justified, sanctified, and finally glorified.

So the “writing” or “book” language speaks of God’s fixed saving purpose. God unfailingly brings about all its appointed consequences in Christ and by the Spirit. The elect are not merely a possible people; they are the people whom the Father gave to the Son, whom the Son redeems, and whom the Spirit brings home.

If this definition of salvific election is deficient, I would be happy to consider where I have missed it.

More often than not, I encounter Christians from many different backgrounds and traditions contending with what is meant by salvific election, the kind referenced in John 6, John 10, Romans 8–9, and Ephesians 1, in a way that has the effect of avoiding the necessary consequences of what the word and doctrine entail.

Such as seems to be the case with Frank Turek here.

[Riley Chauvin-Duchesne @RileySDG7]

Excellent! Which texts do you think give the strongest evidence for two categories of truly regenerate people?

Category 1: Elect/regenerate people, all of whom are certainly finally saved.
Category 2: Non-elect/regenerate people, some of whom may finally fall away.

In other words, where does Scripture teach that a person can be truly born again, united to Christ, indwelt by the Spirit, and yet not be among the elect?

[Riley Chauvin-Duchesne @RileySDG7]

We do!

Literally, on most things. And that is very good. 🤝🕊

I would even refine it this way: I think the only real disagreement we have encountered is how sanctification and justification relate.

I would say sanctification never becomes an open contingency in the decretal sense, as though a true saint may finally fall away. Those whom the Father gives to the Son will come to the Son, will be justified in Him, will be eternally sealed by the Spirit, and will produce all that God requires and has indeed decreed for that individual saint.

From the pastoral and temporal vantage point, though, the warnings and imperatives are still read with full seriousness. They are real means God uses to preserve His people, not hypothetical threats that overturn His decree.

To me, this is not that abstract.

In the final analysis, I do not believe you can affirm the following while treating sanctification as though it introduces an uncertain creaturely contingency into final salvation:

The Father gives.
The Son saves.
The Spirit seals.
All the elect, written in the Lamb’s book of life, are finally saved.

That biblical formulation is speaking primarily from the decretive, heavenly vantage point of salvation.

The temporal path is real, but it cannot finally fail, because God ordained both the end and the means.

[Riley Chauvin-Duchesne @RileySDG7]

@MateyYanakiev @Mary_is_Queen 💯
Glad you said this.

[Riley Chauvin-Duchesne @RileySDG7]

The Galatian error is not saying what David says.

The error is saying what David says while believing your ultimate justification before God is based on that performance, or that your final vindication rests on obedience as its instrument or ground rather than displaying obedience as the necessary fruit and evidence of a regenerate heart united to Christ.

The Galatian error is a few drops of the Pharisee spirit mixed into Christ’s Gospel, with that added mixture treated as salvific and eschatologically ultimate. Like other sins that, in reigning dominion, mark those who will not inherit the kingdom of God, a settled Galatian spirit reveals a real distinction between those united to Christ and those whom Christ never knew. Yet remnants of this spirit may remain in true believers, though not in reigning dominion.

Many believers in glory will have had confused, inconsistent, and even sinful neonomian or antinomian tendencies in this life. They will be covered by Christ, because blessed is the man against whom the Lord does not count his sin. Christ saves sinners. He even saves sinners with bad theology, though He does not save by those errors, and He will ultimately free His people from them, even if not perfectly in this life.

What is particularly insidious about the Galatian sin, and all self-righteousness, is that it cuts directly at the core of the Gospel. Pride blinds the soul to its need for God Himself - Christ.

As with David, it is one thing to say, in truth, that you have loved righteousness and hated wickedness. It is another thing entirely to believe that your obedience secured your peace with God, or continues to secure it.

A child may genuinely proclaim his obedience and love for his father. So may we with our Father. But the child would be severely disordered if he believed his sonship was purchased or maintained by that obedience. Obedience is the fruit and fitting expression of sonship, not the currency that buys it. That older-brother logic of treating obedience as the basis of acceptance before the Father is wicked, and is ultimately high treason because it falsely accuses the Father of being one who lacks the very goodness and generosity that is at the core of who He is and being "a hard master, reaping where seed wasn't sown."

David knew that God Himself, His love, mercy, and grace, was his only hope. You see this everywhere in the Psalms and in David’s life.

[Riley Chauvin-Duchesne @RileySDG7]

The Galatian error is not saying what David says.

The error is saying what David says while believing your ultimate justification before God is based on that performance, or that your final vindication rests on obedience as its instrument or ground rather than displaying obedience as the necessary fruit and evidence of a regenerate heart united to Christ.

The Galatian error is a few drops of the Pharisee spirit mixed into Christ’s Gospel, with that added mixture treated as salvific and eschatologically ultimate. Like other sins that, in reigning dominion, mark those who will not inherit the kingdom of God, a settled Galatian spirit reveals a real distinction between those united to Christ and those whom Christ never knew. Yet remnants of this spirit may remain in true believers, though not in reigning dominion.

Many believers in glory will have had confused, inconsistent, and even sinful neonomian or antinomian tendencies in this life. They will be covered by Christ, because blessed is the man against whom the Lord does not count his sin. Christ saves sinners. He even saves sinners with bad theology, though He does not save by those errors, and He will ultimately free His people from them, even if not perfectly in this life.

What is particularly insidious about the Galatian sin, and all self-righteousness, is that it cuts directly at the core of the Gospel. Pride blinds the soul to its need for God Himself - Christ.

As with David, it is one thing to say, in truth, that you have loved righteousness and hated wickedness. It is another thing entirely to believe that your obedience secured your peace with God, or continues to secure it.

A child may genuinely proclaim his obedience and love for his father. So may we with our Father. But the child would be severely disordered if he believed his sonship was purchased or maintained by that obedience. Obedience is the fruit and fitting expression of sonship, not the currency that buys it. That older-brother logic of treating obedience as the basis of acceptance before the Father is wicked, and is ultimately high treason because it falsely accuses the Father of being one who lacks the very goodness and generosity that is at the core of who He is and being "a hard master, reaping where seed wasn't sown."

David knew that God Himself, His love, mercy, and grace, was his only hope. You see this everywhere in the Psalms and in David’s life.

[Riley Chauvin-Duchesne @RileySDG7]

@ProvisionistP @grok He was fully God and fully human. Therefore, according to His true human nature, His flesh could genuinely change, grow, suffer, and die prior to His glorified resurrection state, while His divine nature remained immutable.

[Riley Chauvin-Duchesne @RileySDG7]

God’s eternal decree in Christ is the unchanging foundation of our hope.

Not decree abstracted from Christ, but the Father’s eternal purpose in Christ, the Son’s finished and securing work for His people, and the Spirit’s faithful application of that salvation in time.

This matters because when you fall into sin, grow introspective, or become troubled by the weakness of your own heart, you may be tempted to think there is no hope. But if your hope rests on the Father’s decree, the Son’s accomplishment, and the Spirit’s preserving work, then even in wayward and troubled seasons your hope remains secure in God.

If repentance and obedience become the thermostat of your assurance, your hope will constantly fluctuate. They are necessary fruits, but they are not the root. They evidence life, but they do not create it. They confirm union with Christ, but they are not the foundation of it.

Our hope must be Trinitarian.

From eternity past: the Father gave a people to the Son.
In the present: the Son receives, saves, and keeps them.
Into eternity future: the Spirit brings God’s work to completion.

“All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.”

There it is:

The Father gives.
The Son receives and never casts out.
The Spirit brings the sinner to Christ and keeps him there.

So the believer’s final hope is not the stability of his own frame, but the immovable purpose of God in Christ.

[Riley Chauvin-Duchesne @RileySDG7]

@MateyYanakiev @patristicpill Christ IS our song.

Exodus 15:2
The Lord is my strength and my song,
and he has become my salvation

Psalm 118:14
The Lord is my strength and my song;
he has become my salvation.

[Riley Chauvin-Duchesne @RileySDG7]

Blessed be the Trinity

"The Father Himself loves you"

"Christ loved us and gave Himself up for us"

"God’s love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us."

Loved by the Father
Loved by the Son
Filled with the love of God by His Spirit

The Father loved His people
So He sent His Son
By the Spirit we are made alive in Him

[Riley Chauvin-Duchesne @RileySDG7]

Can you also add "I reject works as the instrumental means of obtaining, securing, or improving our final verdict before God. Christ alone is the ground of that verdict, and faith alone receives Christ. Good works are necessary as fruit and evidence of union with Christ, but not as the instrument by which we inherit eternal life.”

Lol.

I know, I know.. 😏

Hey its worth a try 😁

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