@letocq @HeidiSoulsby Whilst we could keep our law if the UK leaves the Convention, it's possible that islanders would no longer have access to the European Court of Human Rights. This ultimate and independent court of appeal is fundamental to our rights.
@albundysdad @marshy38@DeborahMeaden Universal human rights are an essential part of modern democracies. If a government decides to ignore internationally agreed rights, that country will not be operating a true system of democracy.
@JackieD86388657 Right now, the only label we might accurately use is "fellow human being". If these individuals were seeking asylum, which we know is likely, then they were certainly not "illegal" because anyone has a right to seek asylum in a country of their choice.
@ammejo1@DeborahMeaden @albundysdad Context is important. At that time, it was reasonable to believe that the vaccine might prevent infection (it did, but not with the hoped for efficacy). The perceived choice was to either mandate the jab or risk the deaths of many vulnerable people.
@sheila_0060@ammejo1@DeborahMeaden @albundysdad Indeed, which is very worrying. We should remember that Hitler was democratically elected. An independent bill of rights would return the UK to a similar form of democracy, because it will lack the independent court that guarantees respect for our rights and freedoms.
@ammejo1 @DOCasBAC @DeborahMeaden @albundysdad You are conflating two different pieces of legislation. It's confusing, but the Canadian Human Rights Act is actually discrimination legislation. Our human rights law is completely different and does not directly deal with discrimination.
@ammejo1@DeborahMeaden @albundysdad My understanding is that it's not an all or nothing effect. The vaccines reduce the chances and severity of infection and, If a vaccinated person does get infected, vaccines reduce the time it takes to clear.
@Paul_Hand@clw9999@ammejo1@DeborahMeaden @albundysdad Thats not correct. Many professions require employees to be vaccinated; medics, members of the armed forces, certain jobs working with children or animals, etc. Additionally, many countries require visitors to have certain vaccines (yellow fever, etc).
@Paul_Hand@clw9999@ammejo1@DeborahMeaden @albundysdad That's not correct. For example, medics and members of the armed forces are required to have various vaccinations. Certain travel destinations also require travellers to be vaccinated (yellow fever, etc).
@ammejo1@DeborahMeaden @albundysdad No one can be forced to be vaccinated. However, ECHR did rule that certain employees could be required to be vaccinated in the interest of public safety or face losing their job.
@albundysdad @DeborahMeaden "Stops our democracy from being able to function". No doubt Hitler would have have said the same. Our system of rights are preventing inhumanities and guarding against tyranny of the majority, which, in my mind, means the system is doing exactly what it should.
@ammejo1@DeborahMeaden @albundysdad It is not possible that a UK bill of rights could adequately replace our current system of rights protection because it would not have the key element of independent oversight that's currently provided by the European Court of Human Rights.
the European Court of Human rights, set up to prevent the atrocities of World War 11 ever happening again, is there to protect the people .. us.. from the State. I’d say we should be pretty worried about our Govts threat to come out of it… or have we become sheep?
This is a school meal
in Rome. France has similar high standards. Why do we contract
out children’s school meals to the lowest bidder, when nutrition is an important factor in health & child development.
@gavinstpier@JEPnews Isn't it somewhat disappointing that those in the media who filmed and wrote about this conversation didn't understand the constitutional position in the first place?
@darrin2999@gavinstpier If Guernsey does not challenge this bill, will we not be complicit in establishing a law that contravenes both our Human Rights Law and international refugee law?
@gavinstpier Not only does the bill contravene the ECHR, it also contravenes international refugee law. The whole purpose of our human rights protections is to curb this form of government excess.