@fannyfrogg@mikeleake And Jesus cared only for Jews. He never taught to Gentiles. Ever. He was one of many failed Jewish Messiahs we know of, many with much larger followings.
@mikeleake Jesus was one of many failed Jewish Messiahs. He only taught to Jews. He cared only about Israel He never taught to Gentiles. Ever. He didnt come to start a new religion Thats all later theology by Hellenized Jews and Christians. Its hijacked Judaism
@Ridge_Cook@WhiteCrone@lisamannmusic Im sure youve heard the Million Dollar Quartet recordings where Elvis and Carl sing Brown Eyee Handsome Man and Carl raves about Berry. Its historic You can see these guys knew at the time how great Berry was
@Ridge_Cook@WhiteCrone@lisamannmusic Its interesting. Elvis records in 54. So he didnt know of Berry. Berry records Maybellene in 55, perhaps hearing of Elvis, and gets a national hit before Elvis. Elvis goes on tour in 55 where you can here recordings of his live set doing Maybellene. So its a cross pollination
@Ridge_Cook@WhiteCrone@lisamannmusic I forget about that- good point. Im wondering if Phillips calls the Chess brothers in Summer of 54 saying hey I got this young white kid hopping up this blues and bluegrass stuff and the kids are goin crazy- or did he keep it a secret for as long as he could from guys like Chess
@Ridge_Cook@WhiteCrone@lisamannmusic Im always wondering did Chess know of Elvis at the time? They had to know about Bill Haley. In other words, did Berry himself see the writing on the wall of this new market, and if so, by who? I doubt he heard Thats All Right Mama as it was only a regional hit. ?
@Ridge_Cook@WhiteCrone@lisamannmusic And Chess tried to bid on Elvis contract against RCA but they came up a bit short. Imagine the amount of money the lost out on because they were like 10k short lol
@Ridge_Cook@WhiteCrone@lisamannmusic Berry takes a white countty song by Bob Wills and turns it into Rock and Roll song Maybellene. Presley takes a black Blues song and turns Thats All Right Mama into Rockabilly. Its incredible. Both broke down the notion of what was considered white or black music
@Ridge_Cook@WhiteCrone@lisamannmusic Berry's genious was for the songs aimed at the teenage market ( white). He says so himself. Most peoole thought Berry was a white guy and Elvis was black. Thats the funny part
@TeachCicco@BedardSebastien @ShawnMcClintock @iamAtheistGirl@d49weather@justinsytsma I never said they didnt exist. I said they didnt write the gospels. They were likely illiterate for one, and they thought the end times were at hand so no need to write anything down as Jesus was coming back anyway. It was decades later before anything was written down
@TeachCicco@BedardSebastien @ShawnMcClintock @iamAtheistGirl@d49weather@justinsytsma That could all be debated of course. Jews dont recognize the prophecy, and its their religion. Its easy to say prophecy was fullfilled if you know the prophecy beforehand to fulfill it
@Ridge_Cook@WhiteCrone@lisamannmusic You can imagine guys like Perkins Cash and Presley just diggin this stuff. Mix that with Hank Williams, and you get the Rockabilly stuff recorded on Sun records. Elvis gets alot of flack and blame for "stealing" black music- what they dont realize is he took it all in.
@TeachCicco@BedardSebastien @ShawnMcClintock @iamAtheistGirl@d49weather@justinsytsma Its only tradition of the authors names. Gospels were traded among the early churches and hand copied. We dont have any surviving gosples until the late 3rd and 4th century besides small scraps. We have copies of copies of copies of copies of copies. The originals are lost
@TeachCicco@BedardSebastien @ShawnMcClintock @iamAtheistGirl@d49weather@justinsytsma Thats not accurate. The stories were bases on oral tradition and various pericopes. The gospel writers assembled pericopes, filled in some blanks to create the narrative for their audience. They did not know they were writing a Bible. There isnt any eyewitness accounts.
@WhiteCrone@Ridge_Cook@lisamannmusic True. There is a long history, going back to the 30s Read about the life of Memphis Minnie. What a story She was also a pioneer, mostly forgotten. New generations always come along and relate to whats current. How many Led Zep fans know the origin of many of their songs?
@BedardSebastien @ShawnMcClintock @iamAtheistGirl@d49weather@TeachCicco@justinsytsma Sorry but the gospel authors are unknown. Luke and Matthew copied from Mark and another unknown source scholars call "Q" . The apostles were poor illiterate Aramaic speaking Jews, as was Jesus. They would not be able to compose theology in Koine Greek.