@BennettPitcher@HollywoodShayne LeBron made the finals at 22 with Larry Hughes as his 2nd leading scorer (played on the bulls so no disrespect Larry). Back to back mvp at 25. Not a discussion we’re having right now.
@jacksonmunro41@evankanellos1 Agree that Jokic is a plus defender and metrics are flawed. So, maybe the best stat to use is DARKO, which a hoopshype survey says the most front office employees trust! According to this advanced stat, Lebron at his peak is nearly 10% more impactful than Jokic at his! Woah!!
@jacksonmunro41@evankanellos1 True that neither player heavily relies on the 3! However, I think this speaks more to the quality of shot, spacing, and overall offensive strategy that Jokic’s Nuggets play with vs 15 yrs ago. And again, PER really only focuses on one side of the ball, but you gotta play both!
@jacksonmunro41@evankanellos1 Hearing LeBron has made first team all defense 6 times, he might be better there! PER is a great stat! However it strongly weighs 3pm, and the game has changed! In fact, 3pa across the league have nearly doubled from Lebrons per peak of 2009 (18.1a) to Jokic’s in 2022 (35.2a)!!!
@jacksonmunro41@evankanellos1 I would argue that you are doing the same thing! BPM values plays like assists, which Jokic is great at, more heavily for centers than forwards, like LeBron. That stat also has Jokic as the best defender in the nba each of the last 3 years, yet he has made 0 all defensive teams!
@jacksonmunro41@evankanellos1 Jokic did turn pro before LeBron though, right? And I’m pretty sure LeBron still won his 4th mvp before Jokic won his third maybe?? I think his peak WAR season is 20% higher than Jokic’s too. He might be better idk
@jacksonmunro41@evankanellos1 Weren’t you like 7 years old in 2011? I’m surprised you remember that series so well. And in case you forgot because again you weren’t even 10 years old, LeBron went on to win back to back titles right after that! While being younger than Jokic is right now!!! Impressive stuff