The Legend

Has lots of opinions on alot of things, Mostly politics and football though ;)

[The Legend @SadisticMark]

@CPMacL2008 Extremely dehumanising language you are applying their towards your alleged fellow citizens. Doesn't exactly seem like you adhere to this 'mutual respect', 'equality' and 'parity of esteem' you perpetually go on about

[The Legend @SadisticMark]

@imshanereaction @Ciara87C I would not dispute how abhorrent that is. My point was and still is no one living in that time period had this 'charmed life' . It was awful for all communities growing up in a sectarian divided society with daily conflict. All communities have scars for it to this day. Agree?

[The Legend @SadisticMark]

@imshanereaction @Ciara87C I would not deny any of that. My initial point was disagreeing with your idea that Protestants had a 'charmed life'. When they faced many similar repercussions for growing up in a deeply divided sectarian society with daily conflict (a lot of which was inflicted on them too).

[The Legend @SadisticMark]

@DanielCollins85 @Ciara87C @imshanereaction Very sad prism to view the world. "they weren't victims, because we were more so victims".
Everyone in that time period Protestant or Catholic grew up with the pain of living in deeply divided, sectarian society with daily conflict. To deny otherwise is sectarian and/or ignorant

[The Legend @SadisticMark]

@DanielCollins85 @Ciara87C @imshanereaction So its a contest of victimhood? I'm actually shocked you are stooping so low in this charade of trying to deny Protestant communities victimhood of having to face similar problems of living in a conflict/ sectarian society.

[The Legend @SadisticMark]

@imshanereaction @Ciara87C There was also no go areas for Protestants during that time period, Protestants also had to lie about their names etc. To act/pretend Protestants didn't face any trauma or repercussions growing up in a sectarian divided conflict society. Is utterly ridiculous.

[The Legend @SadisticMark]

@imshanereaction @Ciara87C True, but Protestant communities were subjected to daily IRA terror during the troubles. They grew up with similar conflict trauma living in the 6c during that period as anyone else.

To try and undermine that based on 'oh but but our trauma was worst' is very sad and pathetic.

[The Legend @SadisticMark]

@imshanereaction @Ciara87C this 'charmed life' you speak of was not experienced by ANYONE in the 6c of any background. To frame it as an exclusively Catholic problem is sectarian &/or ignorant to the reality.

[The Legend @SadisticMark]

@DanielCollins85 @duponline @EarsAllex A more appropriate comparison would have been the 1916 rising commemorations. But oh wait you can't use that as you know the Queen and other unionist figures (not all but some) supported attending such events.

This comparison was a desperate stretch as per usual.

[The Legend @SadisticMark]

@DanielCollins85 @brianjohnspencr They are part of the Irish nation, as per the GFA which the Irish nation agreed on the below.

[The Legend @SadisticMark]

@DanielCollins85 @brianjohnspencr Cause NI Unionists. Believe in NI self determination and being part of both Irish and UK nations...

In the same manner some people in Catlonia believe in Catalan self determination and being part of Spanish and Catalan nations..

[The Legend @SadisticMark]

@DanielCollins85 @brianjohnspencr "Some also deem themselves as pat of the Spanish nation"

So you can believe in regional self determination while simultaneously believe in being part of two nations?

Kind of like NI unionists. Case and point.

[The Legend @SadisticMark]

@DanielCollins85 @brianjohnspencr And whenever you say 'recognised'. Um yes. NI is also recognised as a legitimate (but contested state) and ratified by the GFA (with majority of Irish nations support).

You are desperately trying to draw distinction without a difference re Catalan nationalism & NI Unionism.

[The Legend @SadisticMark]

@DanielCollins85 @brianjohnspencr Yes Catalan nationalism is a recognised political ideology. Catalan being recognised as a nation like Northern Ireland is contested as well. Would you assert supporters of Spanish unity in Catalan aren't part of the Spanish nation?

[The Legend @SadisticMark]

@DanielCollins85 @brianjohnspencr What constitutes Catalunyia being a 'nation' in contrast with Northern Ireland (not being a nation) in your mind.
One exists in Ireland looking self determination as a political minority in a specific region.
The other exists in a region in the nation of Spain looking separatism

[The Legend @SadisticMark]

@DanielCollins85 @brianjohnspencr What you refuse to comprehend or accept based on your own personal biases is:

You can logically be Irish by virtue living on the island of Ireland, without believing in one Irish nation state. and with one of those states maintaining a union with Britain.

[The Legend @SadisticMark]

@DanielCollins85 @brianjohnspencr The fact is, unionists reside on the island of Ireland. That virtue alone constitutes them as being being able to claim Irish identity (if they wish). Your assertion that they should have to justify that based on ideological 'inconsistencies'' and 'consequences' is a fallacy.