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@athieism @christianity
Looking for one atheist to come and give any good rebuttal for their lack of morals. BTW, saying "Christian God is not moral" or presenting any kind of subjective moral argument does not count for grounding your position.... Good luck

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@athieism @christianity
Looking for one atheist to come and give any good rebuttal for their lack of morals. BTW, saying "Christian God is not moral" or presenting any kind of subjective moral argument does not count for grounding your position.... Good luck

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@Thedukeistheman @a_space_alien @Atheist_Bot Your idea of morality has to do with human wellbeing correct?

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@Thedukeistheman @a_space_alien @Atheist_Bot I could be wrong but I believe your idea of morality does work with the moral law. The ten commandments are considered the moral law.

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@Thedukeistheman @a_space_alien @Atheist_Bot Why should we not kill then? Is it moral to kill someone?

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@Thedukeistheman @a_space_alien @Atheist_Bot So don't steal is not a moral statement?

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@Thedukeistheman @a_space_alien @Atheist_Bot Morality is a standard set by an all authoritative being which cannot be opposed as there is no equal to oppose it.

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@Thedukeistheman @a_space_alien @Atheist_Bot So you believe that 10 commandments are not a moral standard of living?

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@JamesTolsier @empiricistdaddy @FFBAtheists @Atheist_Globe @jamesrukkyy @RichardTEvans4 @drobinson1969 @michelleacorey @aprilah1111 @singularity59 How is what you just wrote not an opinion? How is this not subjective?

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@JamesTolsier @empiricistdaddy @FFBAtheists @Atheist_Globe @jamesrukkyy @RichardTEvans4 @drobinson1969 @michelleacorey @aprilah1111 @singularity59 So how does one reason within themselves to the correct moral outcome? Is that not an opinion?

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@Thedukeistheman @a_space_alien @Atheist_Bot Yeah but that's not morality, that would be your opinion on what you think you should do which you deem as moral.

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@Thedukeistheman @a_space_alien @Atheist_Bot From my perspective I do not have an opinion in the matter. It's set in stone ( quite literally) but I cannot say it's my opinion that it is right/wrong. They are factual statements. I'm saying I have the rules and your making up yours as you go along on the spot

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@JamesTolsier @empiricistdaddy @FFBAtheists @Atheist_Globe @jamesrukkyy @RichardTEvans4 @drobinson1969 @michelleacorey @aprilah1111 @singularity59 What makes what you just said not an opinion but rather a fact? Is it important that we have opinions or facts when talking about empathy and human happiness?

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@Thedukeistheman @a_space_alien @Atheist_Bot What I am saying is that is everyone has their own evaluation of right and wrong then we find ourselves where we currently are. Understanding morality and who establishes it gives us a perspective on how we should act, treat others, and a healthy view of our own flaws

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@Thedukeistheman @a_space_alien @Atheist_Bot No no no, please don't mistake me. I don't feel morally justified in my view. In fact I understand my own flaws and shortcomings. I wish not to make others feel morally inferior. The same standards I believe in I fall short of. But my contention is that I see the bar where nonedo

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@empiricistdaddy @JamesTolsier @empiricistdaddy you are engaging with me. Do as you said you would do in a pompous, better than me attitude and go away. I'll talk with these who are being cordial. I haven't engaged with you because of your attitude. But your worse than a stage 5 clinger at this point.

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@athieism @christianity
Looking for one atheist to come and give any good rebuttal for their lack of morals. BTW, saying "Christian God is not moral" or presenting any kind of subjective moral argument does not count for grounding your position.... Good luck

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@athieism @christianity
Looking for one atheist to come and give any good rebuttal for their lack of morals. BTW, saying "Christian God is not moral" or presenting any kind of subjective moral argument does not count for grounding your position.... Good luck

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@Thedukeistheman @a_space_alien @Atheist_Bot I don't see how that's helpful when your opinion is not greater than the person who wants to do harm to you to get ahead. Your each justified by your own standard.

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@Thedukeistheman @a_space_alien @Atheist_Bot Your stance is that you are the authoritative grounds of morality just in your worldview and you link up with others that share the same sentiments?

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@Thedukeistheman @a_space_alien @Atheist_Bot So would you say you are the arbiter of morality in your world view?

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@Thedukeistheman @a_space_alien @Atheist_Bot How could you prevent harm if everyone is doing what's right in his own eyes?

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@Thedukeistheman @a_space_alien @Atheist_Bot I believe if we established right and wrong, and everyone were to agree and desire to live in that, we would prevent loads of harm

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@Thedukeistheman @a_space_alien @Atheist_Bot This has nothing to do with what government system people are using. It's starting that people have vast differences when it comes to their opinion of morality. But that is not morality, that's opinion