@scadutree Elden Ring has become my comfort game. A safe space to try, fail, and try again over and over, without judgement. Either I learn, or try something else. There is no losing, no game over, every attempt is as valid as the next.
@Grey1371@suchnerve That is why it is considered a paradox. 'People say they are tolerant, and yet they will not tolerate those who have a different opinion, so they are equally intolerant', which only holds up if there is a moral absolute about tolerating everything. Which there isn't, really.
@EvanLang@suchnerve I think the bigger picture is that some people, like the ones in OP's example, try to apply the paradox to reality. Which is where the social contract needs to be applied, instead. Just my interpretation, tho.
@EvanLang@suchnerve Philosofically, yes. 'You become the thing you are against' holds up if you think in absolute moral terms. Which doesnt work in reality. Being a tolerant person overall shouldn't mean you have to tolerate literally everything. Thats the social contract.
@noobsterr9945@cyraeiart This is dialogue with npc Max Jones, after Regina's gig 'freedom of the press' after you get him out alive. You can find him in Regina's hideout.
@avsbes@RealFehold@Oitajpn Oh, absolutely. With good writing it could still work. Then adding the « meta » of the writers addressing the player directly, as @Oitajpn mentioned, you could also play with the concept of the Painters interacting with the player somehow (which may have already happened anyway).
@Oitajpn Yeah, that tracks. I first fell into the trap of thinking Verso's ending was the 'good' because the Dessendres feel more 'real' compared to the people inside the canvas. But they are just as fake. Weighing the entire canvas against a family of 4 really is an unfair choice.