Hollywood is going to try copying the success anyway.
The vibe shift may be real, but it's important to notice there's something technical right at the heart of the plot that’s just as crucial. Something more important than genre, and I’d say it sits at the very core of the values that made audiences love it so much.
This thread is about the secrets of good narrative structure (secrets often so deep that even the people creating the stories don’t fully know them).
I live in a country that got to 70k homicides a year (more than the Northern Hemisphere combined). In ten years we got more people killed than some important wars. Meanwhile, the Left-wing government and their allies fought daily to keep minor rapists out of jail and held congresses with the organizations flooding our borders with cocaine. Their policies were so crap that a famous girl who killed her parents got to go home for Mother's Day.
Culture decay was nothing more than a factor for how I see the world. I could mention a thousand others. But that doesn't mean anyone should be ashamed of taking it seriously. Nobody radicalized *just* because of crappy media, but after years of being fed that slop it got pretty tiring.
The problem is that you guys can only picture these young men (as @HariSel57511397) as fat, bald guys in their 20s hysterically crying on the sofa because a girl was added to their favorite show.
The other side always has to be a weirdo. You can't imagine a normal young guy simply noticing that everything you touched in fiction got significantly worse, and concluding that maybe your politics sucked too.
Your absolute inability to picture the other side without turning it into a caricature is a big reason you lost an entire generation in just ten years of bad fiction.
And still, no self-criticism. Let's see where that leads.
Hey guys, does anyone know a good artist who specializes in pulp style? I'm looking to commission a piece in the next few weeks.
Portfolios would be appreciated! #art#commission#pulpArt
@Lunameezo Open to both. It's for a short-story collection cover, but we haven't chosen the exact story yet. Classic pulp/retro comic book cover style is more likely.
@jmgwritten Animal Farm is pretty easy to read, but yeah, we still need a real solution to foster a genuine love for books without throwing all standards out the window.
That said, it's unbelievable to see The Alchemist on the list. What some good connections can do for a guy, huh?
Ogres and dragons are fantasy species, but in fairy tales, the Ogre in the Swamp and the Dragon guarding the princess are archetypes, just like Prince Charming or the Big Bad Wolf (both of which Shrek also subverted).
If Shrek had been about the 'Witch of the Woods who's actually not evil,' it would also be the same as Maleficent, Cruella, Wicked, Lucifer, or now Steps. I'm not calling it a bad movie, just saying it's the same trope before it got tired.
Ogres and dragons are fantasy species, but in fairy tales, the Ogre in the Swamp and the Dragon guarding the princess are archetypes, just like Prince Charming or the Big Bad Wolf (both of which Shrek also subverted).
If Shrek had been about the 'Witch of the Woods who's actually not evil,' it would also be the same as Maleficent, Cruella, Wicked, Lucifer, or now Steps. I'm not calling it a bad movie, just saying it's the same trope before it got tired.
Well, yeah, but can't that same logic apply to pretty much every villain-redemption story? They all tack on some 'good message' besides the 'don't judge them so early' part.
All I'm saying is that people happily give this stuff a pass when the movie is well-made or they like the vibe. Hell, I do the same with things I enjoy, like The Wolf Among Us
Beauty and the Beast shares the "don't judge a book by its cover" theme, but it's fundamentally about a princess bringing out the goodness in a seemingly monstrous man and revealing that he truly is a prince underneath.
When analyzing Shrek, we should consider its context is fairy tales, since it's a movie made to play with those stories. And, in fairy tales, the ogre is a villain. The fact the movie names this ogre and makes him the hero doesn't mean it isn't talking about him. And here the ogre is the good guy, while most nobility is evil or shallow. This becomes even more explicit in the sequel, where the villains are Prince Charming and the Fairy Godmother.
The fact it isn't equal to Beauty and the Beast can be seen by the reversed ending.
@Ersanity1@PrishaMosley The ogre is the villain. Shrek is the archetypal ogre subverted. The same goes for the Dragon. Prince Charming does the opposite.
That's the whole idea of the series.