@eNeecie@willchamberlain@JeremyDBoreing I do agree with you that this has evolved into narcissism. I personally though do you like to have a little bit of nuance when analyzing somebody’s evil behavior to find the root of it.
@heathbohm@willchamberlain@JeremyDBoreing I will fully condemn her and what she is doing. I have personally said that she is the female Alex Jones in terms of her lunacy and her methods. Which is why I do not listen to her on a regular basis unless I have to.
Because others have been able to approach their grief in a better and more healthy way.
I fully condemn what she’s doing. It is evil. It is wrong and people do terrible things in their grief doesn’t justify it. But it’s just my take. I never said it was a fact I said this is just my opinion.
Calm down, I never said what she is doing not evil nor am i condoning it. What she’s doing is absolutely evil wrong and disgusting. I’m perfectly comfortable with the fact that evil exists.
I also see nothing wrong with having a little bit of nuance to understand where the evil comes from.
Well duh that too. But her need to take control with Charlie Kirk specifically and why she’s after Erica is because she is desperate to emotionally reassert control she is in a weird blend of the first three phases of the grief cycle.
She’s in denial of the facts he was shot and killed by some loan gay furry and there was poor security measures.
She’s angry at his death - because he truly did not deserve to die especially in that way.
And she’s bargaining - and her form of bargaining is by “asking a questions” that have no true and goal or outcome, but satisfies or desperation for control.
Hear me out. I believe that she was deeply deeply in love and as platonic of a way as possible with Charlie Kirk, he died in a…Rather preventable way. In her mind she CANNOT accept that. And people in grief tend to try their darndest to reassert control. Even at the cost of loosing everything. Even their own sanity. Everything she’s doing from her most unhinged unverified, downright disgusting accusations, it all stamps from her, trying to assert control of the death of somebody that she loved.
And is it difficult to understand that every single person is built differently?
If every single person was built precisely, and I will use yourself as an example because it’s your own argument, to prepare for adult life perfectly at the correct age of 12 years old 15 years old 18 years old, etc.
We would not be having this conversation.
Not everybody is you. Life worked out good for you because of your hard work. Congratulations. I’m genuinely happy for you. But that is not the case for everybody else on the planet.
But I am advocating for is to build a world where people can recover from poor decisions without having to slave away for 50+ years because they did not prepare adequately enough. That is not too much to understand.
No, you’re not an asshole. I will disagree with you respectfully that there needs to be more nuance.
You came out with the idea that 1000% accountability is on that fictional mother in the example alone.
And yes, she does have an enormous amount of self accountability.
We don’t know what the business is doing wrong.
What if the business is illegally paying her?
What if there was an advantage or a loophole they took over that was unethical that allowed them to pay her only 16.50 an hour?
What if the business had policies deliberately targeting desperate women in order to deliberately save on payroll?
Just because there’s personal accountability which I agree with you on. Does not mean there’s external accountability that is required as well.
@Puffupx@BigWave372 No.
But that Doesn’t mean we should just throw up our hands and quit. Doesn’t mean we can’t advocate, does not mean we can’t try. PEACEFULLY.
And what is the light you’re referring to?
Multiple things can be true at once.
Did she get pregnant and make poor decisions?
Yes.
Does that mean she deserves to be suffer from those poor decisions for the rest of her life?
No.
Does she require hard work to recover from those poor decisions? Yes.
Would it be a positive net goal to adjust the laws and regulations of the country that incentivize workers to be paid more to make ends meet better so they do not have to suffer from their poor decisions for years on end ?Absolutely.
Working hard, does not equal success. There are millions of not billions of people that work hard every day and are unsuccessful. Point is persistence creates success. And nobody should have to work +50+60 or 70+ years to repair a single poor decision. Aside from severe severe detrimental decisions, such as murder.
You’re conflicting that hard work guarantees success.
It does not. It can help. And God knows it is needed in general to just subsist at a minimum.
Hard work does not guarantee success.
Persistence guaranteed success. But most people would agree that you shouldn’t have to be persistent for 50+ years in order to finally make ends meet and have a comfortable lifestyle. The average Joe is not asking to be a billionaire or a millionaire.
Most people just want to be able to be middle class and enjoy life without having to break their bones by the time they’re 40 in order to get there.