Sir Kiwi

[Sir Kiwi @SirKiwitheFirst]

@AlMysteri @cosmonations1 @TrystinFrmCntrl @arakkosuperstar Not to mention the fact that various aspects of american east coast culture, aesthetics, urbanism exc are core parts of the identities of alot of superheroes.
Those are the defining american aspects not some vague philosophical overhanging air of the MIC.

[Sir Kiwi @SirKiwitheFirst]

@AlMysteri @cosmonations1 @TrystinFrmCntrl @arakkosuperstar There aesthetically american because they are an american creation, they trace back to pulp action heroes who trace back to cowboys and stories of the wild west! Not because they were used in propaganda pieces for 4 years 80 years ago.

[Sir Kiwi @SirKiwitheFirst]

@AlMysteri @cosmonations1 @TrystinFrmCntrl @arakkosuperstar The lead up to pearl harbor involved a US led embargo on Japan due to its brutality in east asia and annexations of various European colonies, the economy was not the concern of the government regarding entrance into the war.

[Sir Kiwi @SirKiwitheFirst]

@AlMysteri @cosmonations1 @TrystinFrmCntrl @arakkosuperstar Do you know what a military industrial complex is, because it isn't just "War Factory".
Also what? The great depression had absolutely nothing to do with the US reasoning to join the war, the economic growth WWII caused was a side effect of the war, not the reason.

[Sir Kiwi @SirKiwitheFirst]

@AlMysteri @cosmonations1 @TrystinFrmCntrl @arakkosuperstar Also the MIC isn't an exclusively American concept every European state had some form of an Military industrial complex by the middle of the cold war.

[Sir Kiwi @SirKiwitheFirst]

@AlMysteri @cosmonations1 @TrystinFrmCntrl @arakkosuperstar Superman was originally designed in 1933 and debuted in 1938.
The military industrial complex wasn't really a thing before the early 60s or so, increased military production ≠ military industrial complex.

[Sir Kiwi @SirKiwitheFirst]

@LyxPar @PHlLOCHS @olyonps The Spanish dont think that.
Atleast not the way the british do it.

[Sir Kiwi @SirKiwitheFirst]

@LyxPar @PHlLOCHS @olyonps Whatever from travelling state to state there still on average gaining more thsn the rowdy brit getting drunk in the Barcelonan club or getting sun burnt on the beach.

[Sir Kiwi @SirKiwitheFirst]

@LyxPar @PHlLOCHS @olyonps Okay sure so if a Brit travels to Spain speaks the language engages with the people and all these other things correvrly then by your definition they would be engaging with culture.
But most of them dont, so now what?
If Americans are gaining even marginal "culture points" or-

[Sir Kiwi @SirKiwitheFirst]

@LyxPar @PHlLOCHS @olyonps I mean unless your travelling to like rural romania 90% of the time the language isn't a factor.
Most people especially in western Europe speak atleast some English and even if they dont you can just use a translation app.

[Sir Kiwi @SirKiwitheFirst]

@LyxPar @PHlLOCHS @olyonps Again then, a Californian Gping skiing in the rockies is engaging in the same amount of culture as a Brit going skiing in the Alps.
As you said the food, the people, the mountains and all are different.

[Sir Kiwi @SirKiwitheFirst]

@LyxPar @PHlLOCHS @olyonps Okay sure the problem is british tourists aren't "authentically going to the club" as i mentioned before there so bad at doing these basic recreational activities in a respectful manner that people have genuinely formed movements advocating to kick them out.

[Sir Kiwi @SirKiwitheFirst]

@LyxPar @PHlLOCHS @olyonps Okay if this were the case then by this argument an californian going to a beach in florida or going skiing in Colorado is just as worldly and we'll traveled as a brit going to a beach in spain or a ski resort in the Alps because these are both culturally engaging activities.

[Sir Kiwi @SirKiwitheFirst]

@LyxPar @PHlLOCHS @olyonps One of these is a recreational activity you can do at any place suited for it, one of them is almost always regionally specific to the place your traveling.
There is significantly more culture in going to historic landmarks and learning things than going to a club or a beach.

[Sir Kiwi @SirKiwitheFirst]

@LyxPar @PHlLOCHS @olyonps Skiing in the Rockies at a resort is not fundamentally different than skiing in the Alps at a resort.
So no I do not think basic recreational activities are typically cultural.

[Sir Kiwi @SirKiwitheFirst]

@LyxPar @PHlLOCHS @olyonps I said a ski resort specifically which is curated ski slopes, and your not particularly engaging with nature by going down a mountain at 40+ MPH for the adrenaline rush.
And again this is very similiar to the beach, while you might get a different slope-

[Sir Kiwi @SirKiwitheFirst]

@LyxPar @PHlLOCHS @olyonps Most people going to museums abroad go to museums about the place there in and even if you aren't, your still engaging with culture abroad!

[Sir Kiwi @SirKiwitheFirst]

@LyxPar @PHlLOCHS @olyonps Okay man are you just gonna keep doing these terrible bad faith arguments?
The point is you can go on a summer vacation to a coastal area and your not going to get a significantly different experience just lounging on a beach in California than you would in Spain-

[Sir Kiwi @SirKiwitheFirst]

@LyxPar @PHlLOCHS @olyonps This is a generally bad argument because you also brought up "local hobbies" first i dont know you tell me!
If you think sitting on the beach and staring at the sky is culturally engaging then I think you fundamentally dont understand what culture is on a basic level.

[Sir Kiwi @SirKiwitheFirst]

@LyxPar @PHlLOCHS @olyonps Okay you can lounge on a beach anywhere and get effectively the exact same experience.
Every museum is going to be different with different artworks and historical information, your actively engaging with culture in a museum.