@qumranqu@ElonBachman@xwanyex You don't know anything about the history of the Americas or the American Indian peoples so why even bring it up? I don't know why you're so desperate to fight with people who support Israel and Jews.
@qumranqu@ElonBachman@xwanyex That isn't how land ownership has ever worked, I don't believe people have has some inherent right to land that they inhabited however many years ago in virtue of their ethnic background (especially since ethnic groups are constantly intermingling). That makes no sense.
@qumranqu@ElonBachman@xwanyex How would you even determine who was indigenous to what parts of the land, much less which modern-day Americans belong to what group? Different civilizations were constantly stealing each other's lands too. Would you give the Black Hills to the Lakota, the Cheyenne, or the Kiowa?
@qumranqu@ElonBachman@xwanyex Whenever I feel like it or never, I don't think everyone has to live where they were born and an existing state shouldn't be destroyed to accommodate the past (not to mention the infeasibility). This is the same reason I think people who say 'Israel should be abolished' are dumb.
@qumranqu@ElonBachman@xwanyex I just don't understand, all the available evidence I've seen points to modern day Palestinians being descended from Canaanites, are many of those bloodlines are historical victims of the Roman and Arab conquests just as the Jews forced from the region were.
@qumranqu@ElonBachman@xwanyex Whats the symmetry breaker that makes Sephardim and Mizrahim who obviously had Canaanite ancestors but who migrated and intermingled elsewhere indigenous but denies that same indigenous ancestry to the Palestinians formed by Roman and Arab conquest and intermingling?
@swolbias28@hot_head42@enc009@SaadInCyber The funny part is that if you were a little smarter you might argue about claims re: the extent or use case of the tunnels, but you don't know anything about the conflict or follow the news, so you make easily disprovable statements like 'the tunnels don't exist' instead.
@swolbias28@hot_head42@enc009@SaadInCyber The basic 'scrutiny' in question being applied to a US DOJ complaint: "Uhhhh I don't trust this because it's American!" You are not a serious person interested in ascertaining the truth here, you're just an ideologue with your head in the sand. You're retarded and I pity you.
@qumranqu@ElonBachman@xwanyex You're quibbling about something thats been broadly confirmed by genomic analysis and doesn't diminish the importance of a Jewish state in their historical home when I'm broadly aligned with you. I genuinely don't understand what you have to lose from acknowledging this truth.
@swolbias28@hot_head42@enc009@SaadInCyber I don't know if you're even aware of it but you've built an epistemic standard that is impossible to satisfy. You will never believe anything that goes against your priors, so theres no point even trying to persuade you.
@qumranqu@ElonBachman@xwanyex I'm a Zionist and I support Israel, it's just the truth that both Israelis and Palestinians are descendants of the Canaanites/Israelites and share a historic homeland in Eretz Yisrael. Just as the Sephardim, Mizrahi, and Ashkenazi are indigenous so too are the Palestinians.
@swolbias28@hot_head42@enc009@SaadInCyber Memri keeps recordings and transcripts of primary sources such as otherwise inaccessible regional broadcasts, such as the 5/26/2021 Sinwar speech broadcast in Qatar. The US DOJ also discussed and cited it in their criminal complaint charging Sinwar:
https://t.co/lYyxZga6J8
@swolbias28@hot_head42@enc009@SaadInCyber You're just lying lmao, even your own screenshots trying to laugh at the articles explicitly state that journalists were escorted inside the tunnels. How do you lie so blatantly like this??? I don't even think you're pro-Palestinian, you just seem completely lost and retarded.
@swolbias28@hot_head42@enc009@SaadInCyber What does this even mean you retarded fuck? Do you just think the information cited is fake because the publication has 'Jew' in its name LMAO, you can literally just watch the original Russia Today segment via Memri if you don't believe the Jews on it
@qumranqu@ElonBachman@xwanyex Aren't both populations native to the land? Judaism itself has primacy in the land vs. Islam or course, but almost all modern day Israelis and Palestinians can trace their roots in whole or in part back to the Canaanites and Israelites, with varied European/Arab intermingling.