At some point, you have to realize that you can't reason with the unreasonable. Yet in spite of that, there is a nagging desire to understand and be understood.
@VoidLoki01 Two things,
One, we don't know that Loki's height has doubled he might still be close to his original height or bigger than 2x
Two, Loki is about 3x the size of normal giants (giants≈20m, ancient giants≈60m)
So Imu might be even bigger than you're thinking
@J3CC7676@MG_0038 Luffy the character having monkey themes≠Nika the God having any monkey-like depictions
We just talked about retcons, unless you believe Oda had Nika planned since chapter 1 why even bring that up?
I thought you were the first person who understood what I was saying😭
Oh well
@J3CC7676@MG_0038 They might have said it in a crass way but what was retweeted was them just pointing out how neither Nika nor Luffy showed any monkey like traits before this chapter so it doesn't make sense that Nika is a monkey now, which is basically what you just admitted was fair.
@wanderoushollow@J3CC7676@MG_0038 I kinda alluded to that when I said "those just being interpretations that could've been incorrect or incomplete" and you are right to mention with that since we honestly don't know yet.
That doesn't change the situation nor people's reaction to Nika suddenly being a monkey.
@J3CC7676@MG_0038 Sure but that was more of an example of how Oda could've have set that up IF that was always the intended direction he was going, it might not have been at the time.
@J3CC7676@MG_0038 Your right being retcon but doesn't automatically make it bad, but people are allowed to question or have a problem with inconsistencies in design and a lack of setup, regardless of whether they are good or bad.
@J3CC7676@MG_0038 Much like how Kaido is a Fish fruit or the Dinos are Dragon fruit, Nika being a Human fruit with a monkey-like body isn't the problem, it's that we've seen depictions if Nika before and none of them have been a monkey so why is he a monkey now?
@J3CC7676@MG_0038 Like even when the Gorosei were talking about the Nika fruit and it's form why not mention "monkey(or ape)-like deity whose body has the properties of both rubber and gum" or something.
It feels like a late game addition instead of something planned or intended, that's all.
I'm crying about it? While you ran and hid like the child you are?
You never "factchecked" anything I said as you couldn't prove that I had a problem with him being a monkey just the inconsistancy of the depictions prior.
Guess that's why you did want to talk anymore🤣
I never said anything like that at all, you or anyone else are more than welcome to prove me wrong.
If there is an inconsistancy betwe what was shown prior and what is shown now that should be worth questioning for anyone paying attention to any story's details.
The responses to this are insane
All I tried to do was clarify a bad faith interpretation of someone else's fair argument and people are acting like I'm the enemy.
Nika wasn't monkey before, why monkey now?
If monkey before, show or name fruit different.
That's all I said!!!🤣
@MG_0038 They're not saying that Luffy had no association with monkeys, they're saying that Nika doesn't.
If Nika was suppose to be a monkey then it should've been a Monkey fruit instead of a Human one or should've at least had monkey-like features in any of the depictions we've seen.
@Previous_Snow17@MG_0038 Calling me a "fucking liar" while not showing me ever having a problem with Nika being a monkey just the lack of setup for it.
I even gave suggestions to make it make more sense, why would I do that if I was against the concept?
Pro-Setup≠Anti-Result
@J3CC7676@MG_0038 Also nobody is against Nika having parallels to Wukong nor Hanuman, it's just that of all depictions shown before, Nika wasn't a monkey, now he is a monkey, don't you not think that deserves at least some questioning?