@Jaeke_Live@back2adhara@Th3_En1gma And guess what? I too can say, that making those decisions, which lost me people and put me through hell, were still worth it, because the end result made me happy.
@Jaeke_Live@back2adhara@Th3_En1gma I mean, I have made decisions that got me hurt and abandoned in the long run, and stuck to my guns about it, because I believed they were the right path for me.
On that basis alone, I don't find sticking to your guns about some gender thing that weird
@Jaeke_Live@back2adhara@Th3_En1gma Do you not understand that people's entire personalities are founded by the smallest realizations? Their entire personalities and hobbies and relations are defined by momentary, chance decisions?
@Jaeke_Live@back2adhara@Th3_En1gma Oh for christ sake, fine, not toast. I decided to abandon everything I love to go travel the world because fuck it.
There? Is that a big enough decision to satisfy you?
@Jaeke_Live@back2adhara@Th3_En1gma You need to represent dysphoria as some kind of Gender OCD. You need to represent any sexuality of a trans person as autogynephilia. Because you have already reached your conclusion and are retroactively justifying it
@Jaeke_Live@back2adhara@Th3_En1gma I'm starting to get the feeling that the entire reason this line of reasoning bothers you is that you need to believe there is something more sinister at play. There very well could be. Everyone has different Why's for the same What. But that doesn't represent everybody. It can't
@Jaeke_Live@back2adhara@Th3_En1gma As I've said, I fumbled greatly when downplaying gender dysphoria initially. I am not arguing against its significance, I am calling it the natural consequence of the identity's circumstances
There is not one sole reason it makes them happy. It's cat and dog people at that point
@Jaeke_Live@back2adhara@Th3_En1gma I don't need to justify why it would make them happy, either. It's an arbitrary fucking decision. It's like asking me to justify why I wanted toast this morning. Because I fucking felt like it would make me happy
@Jaeke_Live@back2adhara@Th3_En1gma They feel personally that being the opposite sex would make them happy. Now that this goal exists for themselves, the lack of progress will inherently make them unhappy, which is dysphoria.
Clinical definitions intact, no extrapolating bullshit, clean interpretation
@Jaeke_Live@back2adhara@Th3_En1gma This is literally my entire argument. You don't need two prevailing theories for "why are people trans" when you can look at it as:
They would rather have this, for any definable reason, and people are naturally uncomfortable and sad when they do not reach that
@Jaeke_Live@back2adhara@Th3_En1gma Because all gender dysphoria actually is is feeling bad that you aren't the thing you would rather be, which while clinically recognized for good reason, is an understandable byproduct of wanting to be something you are currently not
@Jaeke_Live@back2adhara@Th3_En1gma It frames every trans person within these confines of tragedy that just don't line up with the total reality. Was it narrow of me to ignore the cases where dysphoria is crushing? Yes. But those people are dedicated and put care into transition without needing misery to do it
@Jaeke_Live@back2adhara@Th3_En1gma No trans person I've been acquainted with has ever come up to me by saying "I experience non-stop delusional self hatred over my body" they say something to the effect of "Can you call me a girl"
The reason I had such a chip about dysphoria is because of its rigidity