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@Staywoke34 Without Kisuke's interference he would have won despite letting Ichigo survive if we're being fair.

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@Staywoke34 He didn't want to kill his greatest experiment without seeing its true potential, He knew Ichigo would get stronger and he even planned on hanging his friends around town to force that to happen. He didn't expect Ichigo to surpass him or for Kisuke to seal him afterwards

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@borutomomo @Teneani98 To counter Sasuke's Genjutsu, Also 8 tails being an octopus allowed him to escape from Amaterasu

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@borutomomo @Teneani98 Killer B's sword technique had nothing to do with how their fight went? He was simply a direct counter to Sasuke in that exchange, he used lightning chakra nature to cancel out Sasuke's, he was faster and stronger than Sasuke and was a perfect Jinchuriki which allowed him

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@SehumWang32848 @Shinigami216426 Using Kendo and actual sword stances and fighting styles doesn't equate to skill but Sasuke losing 3x to Killer Bee within a 5 minute fight does, right.

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@SehumWang32848 @Shinigami216426 Can't tell if you're missing the point on purpose or if you genuinely can't see the point and i have to dumb it down to the point where a three year old would get

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@SehumWang32848 @Shinigami216426 Naruto blitzes him, Sasuke begins to predict his movement with the Sharingan despite being slower, Naruto starts overpowering him again when he gets even more power, this isn't helping your point. Sasuke used his Sharingan to overcome the initial speed difference.

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@SehumWang32848 @Shinigami216426 Ichigo vs Ikkaku, Ichigo vs Byakuya, Ichigo vs Ulquiorra, Ichigo vs Merged Zangetsu, Ichigo vs Aizen, Ichigo vs Ginjo are all good fights that showcase Ichigos skill vs other skilled opponents

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@SehumWang32848 @Shinigami216426 Aizen also implies that he has hit the limit of a soul reaper meaning he has mastered the four basic combat methods of a soul reaper including art of the sword and hand to hand fighting, Ichigo showcasing that he's able to perfectly parry Aizen later in the series.

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@SehumWang32848 @Shinigami216426 Again none of what you said matters, Kinshiki being an alien god that uses multiple weapons doesn't matter when he doesn't show absurd skill with those weapons and is mainly oonga boonga big swing with an axe and is vastly weaker than Sasuke.

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@SehumWang32848 @Shinigami216426 Also we see your last point is completely false as when Kid Sasuke uses his Sharingan vs Kid Naruto he immediately starts doing better when previously he was getting blitzed and he directly see him seeing Narutos next moves with the Sharingan.

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@SehumWang32848 @Shinigami216426 Again, "keeping up" when he gets destroyed multiple times in this fight is very generous, also that Sharingan is the only reason he didn't immediately die given how even with it he was barely able to parry any of the attacks.

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@SehumWang32848 @Shinigami216426 If you know where your opponent is aiming, it's not purely reaction speed. Again, he predicted that he'd be the target for Minatos FTG as either he or 8 tails noticed that Minato marked them.

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@SehumWang32848 @Shinigami216426 None of these are signs of great sword skill? Also, Ichigo's 'master' is Kisuke, one of the greatest fighters in the verse and Ichigo is literally the strongest swordsman in a sword based anime, he literally beat Byakuya and Aizen (Aizen who has a maxed stat for his sword skill)

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@SehumWang32848 @Shinigami216426 Has no affect on how well an Uchiha does in a fight, you realise that actually helps him parry attacks and keep up in the fight? (Even though he still badly loses this fight even while ganging up on Killer B)

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@SehumWang32848 @Shinigami216426 Killer Bee at 18 was not "keeping up with Minato" he had one scene where he predicted he would be the target for Minato's FTG, he would not have kept up in an actual fight. Also, you're the first person to suggest being able to read your opponents moves with the Sharingan

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@SehumWang32848 @Shinigami216426 You realise this is just basic slashes on a opponent he's far stronger than😭

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@SehumWang32848 @Shinigami216426 Correction: "Here's Sasuke getting bodied by a Bee, while Sasuke is using his Sharingan, which lets him read his opponents moves and to top it off Bee isn't taking him seriously"

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@AbaiGiven84044 It's also totally possible that base Yhwach is stronger than the Base Yhwach from 1000 years ago meaning that the copies strength was stronger or around the same strength as the original from a thousand years ago.

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@AbaiGiven84044 Royd's Schrift allows him to copy his opponents exact appearance, memories and Reiatsu, it also allows him to copy 80% of the opponents strength, Yhwach was heavily nerfed after the original war so it's believable that Yhwach wouldn't be able to return with his full strength.