@MikamakV@countmaculad 2/2 'Zygote,' 'embryo,' and 'fetus' are just names for developmental stages of the same organism, like 'infant,' 'child,' and 'adult.
@MikamakV@countmaculad 1/2 You're treating fertilization as arbitrary, but it's the point at which two gametes cease to exist as separate cells and a new, genetically distinct organism begins. There isn't an equivalent event later where the zygote suddenly becomes a different organism called a fetus.
@MikamakV@countmaculad A sperm cell never develops into an adult human. An egg cell also never develops into an adult human. A zygote does. That's the biological difference. The fact that it developed into an embryo, fetus, infant, and adult doesn't mean it wasn't the same organism all along.
@MikamakV@countmaculad Again, no. Sperm had only half your father's DNA (recombined). Egg had half your mother's. Your unique full genome was created at fertilization. Those gametes weren't "you", they were parental cells that stopped existing. The zygote was the new you
@RyonicSoul@jdnleigh@ThePainfuITruth@natsmocha Still, the OP didn't require a pure 'I kill any rapist, even strangers' motive. That's an impossible standard. Discovering your friend is a rapist is the betrayal trigger. Vigilante cases show this can lead to murder, even if ties amplify it. Most men report or cut ties.
@jdnleigh@RyonicSoul@ThePainfuITruth@natsmocha The post described discovering a friend is a rapist leading to murder, a real (if rare) dynamic driven by the betrayal of that friendship + the crime. Requiring a perfect 'no ties to victim whatsoever' filter is your addition, not the original claim. But good talk ig ✌️
@jdnleigh@RyonicSoul@ThePainfuITruth@natsmocha You're just ignoring how human relationships work. Most men report or cut ties, as we've said. But the dynamic in the OP occurs, even if uncommon. Adding unstated requirements doesn't make your claim true.
@jdnleigh@RyonicSoul@ThePainfuITruth@natsmocha Such pure zero-tie cases are extremely rare because people rarely get detailed proof of a friend's unrelated rape without some context l but the rape discovery itself drives the reaction in real examples.
@jdnleigh@RyonicSoul@ThePainfuITruth@natsmocha Requiring 'completely detached from any victim' turns a real human reaction into an artificial lab test. Real life doesn't work that way. The discovery that someone you trust is a rapist is the trigger enough, even if the victim isn't yours.
@jdnleigh@RyonicSoul@ThePainfuITruth@natsmocha The trigger is discovering your trusted friend is a rapist, a direct betrayal. It doesn't require killing random unrelated rapists. False dichotomy. Most men report or cut ties. OP never demanded zero victim ties.
@RyonicSoul@jdnleigh@ThePainfuITruth@natsmocha Reality check: murder isn't the standard response, most men would report it or cut the friend off, as you said. The vigilante examples (rare) still show the discovery can provoke extreme reactions. The narrowed version is even rarer, which supports why it doesn't commonly happen
@RyonicSoul@jdnleigh@ThePainfuITruth@natsmocha Discovering betrayal by your own friend is directly tied to the rape fact itself. It's not fully separate. Pure zero-connection cases are rare because people rarely learn concrete details about a friend's unrelated rape without some context. That doesn't erase the rape as trigger
@MikamakV@countmaculad No. The zygote had your unique DNA from fertilization, the genome defining you. Somatic mutations occur lifelong (even now), but don't change your origin. You were that developing organism, not a different being "becoming" you. Continuity is key.
@jdnleigh@RyonicSoul@ThePainfuITruth@natsmocha No, discovering your friend is a rapist is itself a profound betrayal that triggers rage, separate from the victim's identity. The OP never said it has 'nothing to do with friendship.' Adding 'only family victims' is a new limit. It happens rarely, but the rape fact matters.
@RyonicSoul@jdnleigh@ThePainfuITruth@natsmocha Real examples show the fact of rape drives strong reactions (even with ties). Insisting only abstract zero-tie cases count is an artificial bar the original post didn't set. Most men report it rather than kill though
@RyonicSoul@jdnleigh@ThePainfuITruth@natsmocha Exactly. 'No ties' cases are rare because people rarely learn concrete details about a friend's unrelated rape without some personal context. But the trigger is still the rape discovery itself. The OP never required a pure 'zero connection' test.