@TD_Barrett@Alex_Ortodoxie “Why would you want to”? Idk…maybe so they don’t become cult leaders for one. 😂Cause that’s what happens over and over without normative authority and judicial structures. It’s the Wild West out there in Protestantville
A few notes about The Lord of the Rings that people suddenly seem to be misrepresenting:
The One Ring is NOT "just a tool"
It was infused with the evil of the being that crafted it
The only way to deal with it is to completely destroy it
https://t.co/wFP3zapVF8
Orthodoxy spent two millennia producing saints, enduring martyrs, and defending the divinity of Christ. It has survived Roman emperors, Ottoman rule, and Soviet gulags just to pass down the unaltered Christian faith through a theology that entirely transcends human intellect. Calling a tradition that shaped global history and challenged the greatest minds of antiquity an "intellectual cult" is an impressively lazy attempt to rebrand your own cognitive fatigue as a theological critique.
Thank you for your continued delusional stance, it’s obvious you have some sort of agenda instead of being relational. Anyone can have these discussions regarding the conversation, conversations and relational interplay between protestants and Orthodox.
Like I said, when I tell my friends and family that we are orthodox, it is completely natural for the discussion to tend to toward salvation, works, justification… all you’re doing is proving that you’ve never had these discussions with anybody, because you would never tell yourself, “I must not discuss this because I am not a priest or have a theological degree”
Your position is completely ridiculous.
As a former protestant, I’ve had many of the exact same discussions with my friends, family, and others.
how Jonathan approached this discussion is exactly how one should when having a conversation with Protestants who want to ask questions and argue without having the humility to embrace the conversation wholly.
Here is my reaction to some of the apologetics problems that have come up in Orthodox and Protestant discussion about salvation and where the true Church is and how those are related. Hopefully it is helpful to the discussion. @OrthodoxEthos , @Acts17David , @gavinortlund , @C2Antiquity , @JayDyer , @Alex_Ortodoxie
Once there was a very sick man. This man tried everything he could: diet, exercise and different supplements, and though it helped him feel a bit better, the sickness still persisted and even got worse. Some of his friends told him to see a doctor, but the man was sure he could make himself well.
After much suffering, the man finally relented and went to see the doctor. The doctor told him: "There is nothing you can do on your own to heal from this disease. You must take this very bitter pill. The pill will at first feel like you are dying, but you must trust me and the medicine. It will heal you."
After much struggle, the man finally accepted and took the very bitter pill. It felt like his entire life was being wasted away, but as the doctor promised, he soon discovered he had new strength in his body, a strength he had not known before.
A few weeks later, the man began having symptoms of the disease again. Saddened by this, he called the doctor. The doctor sent him a list of diet, exercises and supplements. The man was shocked and called the doctor again: "You told me there was nothing I could do on my own to heal from this disease!"
"You are already healed from the disease, but your body was so affected by it, that you must now persevere in discipline, consulting me and evaluating what your health is. These are not simply rules you must follow, but habits you must develop. If you persevere, you will do better and better and will discover levels of health you could not even imagine. But if you do not persevere, the effects of the disease can still kill you."
I have heard different ends to this story. Some say that the man submitted to the discipline and became an athlete. Others insist that he took the rule given by the doctor, applying it to the letter without developing the habits.
Others still, say the man only stood by the original statement of the doctor and had "assurance of his health", refusing that his health was dependent on the habits he needed to develop. "Sure, I can maybe follow the rules the doctor gave me" he told himself, "but that is just in gratitude for having healed me." Sadly this man remained sick, though believing he was healed, and never became the athlete he had in fact been born to be.
my 10 yr old daughter has chronic lyme and has been on doxy for 3 weeks now. She still has neurological symptoms. I have two other friends with chronic lyme that have spent tens of thousands of dollars trying to treat it. Testing needs to be cheaper, and there needs to be a clear, decisive standard of care for chronic lyme.
"Any moment might be our last. Everything is more beautiful because we're doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again."
– Homer, The Iliad
My 10 year old just tested positive for IGg Lyme and Boriella. Starting the 30 days of Doxy. I feel so bad. I wish I would have caught it sooner. It’s so hard though. We’ve pulled 10 rocks off of us and the dogs already this spring. We do tick checks, take showers evey night, I even went through my son’s hair, and sure enough he woke up in the morning and said his head hurt. There was a tick!!
Just an unbelievably glorious day.
There has been a lot of speculation lately about why people are converting to the Orthodox Christian Faith.
Well, there are many reasons that I converted many years ago, but one of the main reasons is Pascha.
Without the Resurrection we are "of all men most miserable" and when I experienced my first Orthodox Pascha I knew that I wanted to be reckoned among those who take this feast seriously and keep it well. You are what you celebrate
@richardrohlin Last year was our first time attending Pasca and my very reluctant husband said afterwards, “how do you ever go back (to a Protestant church) after that”