22LilWIndians

Believer in Christ, fanatic for Baseball
#GoTribe #FortheLand #LGM #OnePride

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@DJCalc @Marc_Fagel @ted_plank Okay, lets be real tho. Beatles went into studios & where nothing really existed, they created art which happened to become the epitome of popular

Monkees were made in studio to copy that pop hit sound ...& as soon as they wrestled some control from the studio, the hits stopped

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@ted_plank @Marc_Fagel Its funny because in my other reply I was talking about the like anti-rhythm, anti-pop leanings of both bands. The Weight is probably the track they sit on the rhythm the absolute most, off Big Pink at least lol

There is no denying Monkees knew what were doing extremely well

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@Marc_Fagel @ted_plank Ok. Both Band & Procol also have this unusual like anti-pop drive. The rhythm doesnt usually carry thru, & its almost like theyre openly fighting against it. Tracks end up with multi stop-start points bc of it

Earliest Dead has it too tho. Can even catch it in like ChinaCat

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@LUSTPPP @airmaxtrin I know, I know. But am I really wrong tho?

That album had some of my fav east coast production of the time ...and it was kinda hard to listen to 🤷‍♂️🤣

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@Marc_Fagel @ted_plank Okay, so I'm curious ...do you dislike Procol Harum as well?

Like off Big Pink, I got Chest Fever, To Kingdom Come & Caledonia Mission esp on my list of peaks ...but I'm almost certain its bc of how much they remind me of Procol (maybe mixed with a bit of Poco, ironically lol)

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@mikel_oliver13 At release in 88, TTL was already sounding old

By 91, west coast was taking over. Apocalypse sounded better & fresher than most east coast albums of time. Cant Truss It, Nighttrain, Shut Em Down, etc still play well, and putting Anthrax on Bring Tha Noise was revolutionary

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@itsonlyoneme908 Im pissing on your floor cause I aint house broken, bitch

🤷‍♂️ Apparently my strongest memory from that (pretty sure its on that at least)

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@airmaxtrin @LUSTPPP Lol 💯 people I knew hated that album. Lyrically great, production a dud

Its kind of the opposite of Group Homes' Livin Proof from that year ...put L on those beats! They were barely being used

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@ONEMANGSG @Slackonbothsydz Yeah, so many have a wow first track. But beyond that, most (inc Warren G & Nate) had already made a bunch of appearances, so people were waiting for solos (& usually knew what to expect)

Outkast's Players Ball was more of a surprise (altho wed heard them rap on some TLC tracks)

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@Slackonbothsydz Not to take away from that track, but wasnt really a true intro tho. He'd already made an impression on the Chronic, Doggy Style, and then this breakaway collab

https://t.co/XQgcbi1kSz

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@Tone__76 @Vagabondlivess @checktherhyme1_ Yep 87s the year shit changed Debut albums alone of

Big Daddy Kane (Long Live The Kane)
Eric B. & Rakim (Paid in Full)
KRS-One/BDP (Criminal Minded)
Chuck D/Public Enemy (Yo! Bum Rush the Show)
Ice Cube/NWA (NWA & the Posse)
Ice-T (Rhyme Pays)

Plus Q-Tip & Slick Rick in studios

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@Vagabondlivess @checktherhyme1_ Kane was basically the feat on that as he was using Bizs name to launch his own (hed been writing for Markie but Im not sure hed been heard before)

That Biz verse is legendary, & Kanes verse gave endless quotables & samples

It dropped in 87; Rap was still finding its footing

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@PaperBoyExtra @HappyIsWack2me @ConceptRaps Lol this convo been going on for 40 years...

Lesson number 1, rekindle the essence
Rap aint about busting caps and fuckin bitches
Its about fluency with rhymin ingenuity
- Del

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@Vagabondlivess @checktherhyme1_ You kidding?
Some of the most sampled, imitated, referenced & influential tracks of alltime came out of 80s features

Like say,
Big Daddy Kane feat Biz Markie
Just Rhymin' with Biz

https://t.co/SsagV6YuxQ

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@ThomasDavi64531

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@BlacTh0r Shared this yesterday as the track that signaled the death of Rap. Seems belongs here too...

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@OlxmiDEY_ Hieroglyphics
(Opio, Phesto, Pep Love)
"Fantasy Island"

https://t.co/cKeBZoQUBK

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@HawkEmDownChris @_iamlougotti Nah, how about Ken Griffey Jr
(Yeah, seriously)

https://t.co/I3PX1wtggX

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@mrstewy78 @_iamlougotti @HawkEmDownChris He (and the DFC) were massive tho. Not obscure, just forgotten

https://t.co/iRoqNLDxKt

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@_iamlougotti I maybe got this one 🤷‍♂️