@jimPELLY@MCFC_Thommy@TBLfan84@SyryloChad@JFreshHockey This team is done unless JBB can shake up the core again. The stars have let this team down again and the only way they can even win a playoff round is if their best players are their best players.
@JohnTho50423432@Doucherov@JFreshHockey Wedgewood and Wallstedt definitely didn't play enough games to warrant a 1st place vote.
Shesterkin was never in the race considering where the Rangers finished.
Sorokin and Thompson were the only other true contenders.
@TBLfan84@SyryloChad@JFreshHockey The Lightning didn't lose the series in Game 7.
They lost because they dragged their feet over the first 5 games.
They outplayed Montreal in Games 6 and 7, but it's hockey and the variance can be crazy in low sample sizes.
@JohnTho50423432@Doucherov@JFreshHockey Who deserved the Vezina over him?
Of the other three main contenders, all 3 had worse numbers than him and 2 missed the playoffs.
It shouldn't have been unanimous, but Vasilevskiy was #1 by process of elimination.
@TBLfan84@SyryloChad@JFreshHockey These people don't care about facts.
100% of goalies in NHL history (not 99.99%) would have allowed in that Suzuki goal and the vast majority of goalies today allowed in that second goal.
Not to mention that he had a Top 5 performance of the year in Game 6 to even get them to 7
@drc3686@buffalo0910@TBLightning Yep. Cooper doesn't deserve the coach in the NHL.
A coach who's notorious for fluke seasons with very little due to his coaching deserved the award over him.
We're on the same page.
@buffalo0910@TBLightning When it was announced Hedman and McDonagh would be gone for several weeks in November, a lot of Tampa fans thought their season was over.
Instead, he turned D'Astous into a real player, Crozier and Lilleberg turned into real players, and Moser/Raddysh into Norris caliber players
@buffalo0910@TBLightning They were 1-4-2 to start the year with 86 and 88, then proceeded to lose 3 of their Top 4 d-men, *then* went on a tear.
Not to mention they were down several key forwards for months at a time.
If Tampa's stars weren't playoff chokers, they would have made the conference final.
@stubbs4269@buffalo0910@TBLightning In the end, if Lindy Ruff won the Jack Adams, it doesn't change anything long-term.
I don't buy the Sabres long-term since their cap situation isn't good and we saw Lindy Ruff have oddly great years with Dallas and New Jersey, who then collapsed shortly after.
@stubbs4269@buffalo0910@TBLightning And Buffalo had a better roster of players than Tampa did (that's not a controversial statement).
Tampa was playing me and you on defense and somehow turned into the best team in hockey for 2 months.
If Tampa was coached by 90% of coaches, they're a Bottom 10 team in hockey.
@buffalo0910@TBLightning And it's still their Captain. There's a reason Colorado didn't get out of the 2nd round while Landeskog was gone, and it was partially because of his absence.
@buffalo0910@TBLightning If he wasn't a Jack Adams worthy coach, the Lightning would have been a Bottom 5-8 team in the league.
The Lightning had no business making the playoffs given their injuries (which were worse than Buffalo's). The reason they had an 8 point lead was comical overachievement.
@buffalo0910@TBLightning Bednar 's team was healthy virtually the entire regular season and his roster was more stacked than Tampa's.
Another key difference is that Colorado's Captain didn't leave the team randomly in the middle of the season.
@buffalo0910@TBLightning If Cooper was truly as bad of a coach as Buffalo fans are proclaiming, the Lightning would have finished Bottom 5 in the NHL since they were playing a literal AHL defense and down multiple forwards. Instead of collapsing, they saved their season and turned it on.
@buffalo0910@TBLightning The only coaches with an argument over Cooper are Muse, Quenneville, and maybe Ruff.
Bowness got the new coach bump and his team collapsed down the stretch. Bednar has the same argument as Cooper but worse since his roster was stacked.
It wasn't Coopers fault that Tampa lost G7
@stubbs4269@buffalo0910@TBLightning By this logic, Jon Cooper shouldn't be disqualified for having a "stacked roster" (which is objectively hilarious) since he developed those same players to be stars.
Ruff gets credit for developing Dahlin, Thompson, and Benson, but Cooper doesn't get any credit for his players?