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Is Iran the Suez moment that ends US hegemony?
John says yes: the battlefield is Iran, and the US has already retreated from it. Boots on the ground are off the table, public opinion is lost in months not years. Iran only has to survive to win.
Brent pushes back: how is this different from Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam? Every hegemon is always at war on the edge of empire. Too early to call it.
Which side are you on?
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John: the days of the US as heavy-handed Gulf policeman with multiple bases are over. Power shifts toward Iran and the regional players.
Brent: but isn't fewer US bases a good thing?
Graceful exit or spectacular collapse?
Every serving member of the US military placed inside Iran would still be a smaller force, proportionally, than the US had at peak Vietnam.
Both men agree: there is no military solution here.
If that's true, why are we still trying one?
John on Russia: mass an army in northeastern Ukraine and you can be in Moscow in days.
Once a state decides something is existential, any cost is justified. Russia will not stop, period.
Is that why Ukraine was never winnable?
John: by the third century Rome was losing more battles than it won, and the decline went exponential from there.
His claim is the US is now on the wrong side of that ratio too.
Is America tracking Rome, or is this pattern-matching?
John: Iran could turn the Gulf into a lifeless desert overnight if it wanted to.
But he argues it doesn't want to. Pakistan, Saudi and Turkey all sent officials to Tehran recently, a sign Iran prefers a diplomatic outcome with its neighbors.
Do you buy that read?
Brent: every hegemon in history has always been at war somewhere on the edge of empire. Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Kosovo, we always came home.
John insists this time is different.
Is permanent edge-of-empire war the sign of strength or decline?
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John: clever diplomacy could have normalized relations with Iran, with security guarantees from Turkey and Pakistan.
Instead the US chose a military solution that has failed, and public opinion heads toward 90% against.
Could a deal really have worked?
John: failure to control the Gulf is the shot heard round the world.
His claim is that everyone now sees the US is no longer the single top dog everywhere, and behavior changes accordingly.
Overstated, or already happening?
Brent names the thing he could be wrong about: Iran's domestic stability.
His bet is the ruling class still holds real public support, and ordinary Iranians blame the bombs, not the regime, for their pain.
Is he right about who they blame?
John asks Brent the question most pundits dodge: what would make you admit you got this wrong?
Brent's answer: he may be overrating Iran's domestic stability, and whether ordinary Iranians blame the regime or the bombs.
Who do they blame?
John: if the US starts hitting Russian tankers in the Caspian, it's gloves-off war with the most powerful nuclear force on earth.
And you can only choke oil at Hormuz. Over land and the Caspian, you can't stop it without boots on the ground.
Does the US dare?
Brent's challenge to the end-of-hegemony case: how is this different from Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Kosovo? We went in, we came home.
John: Iran just has to survive and stay put to win.
Is this time actually different?
This is a key interview to watch, in my opinion.
I think it explains a lot regarding pre-election and post-election thought.
If you’re bullish on the president you’ll probably like it. If not, then no.
I think it’s important to hear from the president at key moments.
John: if the US starts hitting Russian tankers in the Caspian, it's gloves-off war with the most powerful nuclear force on earth.
And you can only choke oil at Hormuz. Over land and the Caspian, you can't stop it without boots on the ground.
Does the US dare?
If you don’t have time to watch the entire interview, then I encourage you to watch this 5min clip. It may positively alter the way you live your life. 💜