Tazorius

Born again Christian. Advocate for the unborn. Can answer the question what is a woman.

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@dejardinant @MikeWingerii @ralf_vidakovics Lol

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@dejardinant @MikeWingerii @ralf_vidakovics Yet now we talk in circles. You can't grasp my argument and I won't take the foolish leap of logic required to think that foreknowledge somehow restricts free will.

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@dejardinant @MikeWingerii @ralf_vidakovics I understand your argument completely. The false leap in logic is that you don't have free will or choice when you will choose A over B. You choose A, not because you must not contradict God's foreknowledge, but because you choose A over B.

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@collinE83 @Sir_Dammed If we let people just add stuff that's popular then we'd need to add Ellen G White's writings and the Quran.

Contradictions to scripture and the testing of prophets is the tools Christians use weed out false teachings.

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@collinE83 @Sir_Dammed We still listen. We use scripture as the heart of truth to compare the words spoken against. It's helped us avoid a lot of heresy and cause teachings over the centuries.

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@Keoki1958 @JoshuaBarzon It's done by historians and archeologists. Study the other side of the argument

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@collinE83 @Sir_Dammed He also warned us against falseb prophets and the missing chapters of John Smith's book was a test that he failed.

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@dejardinant @MikeWingerii @ralf_vidakovics You'd still choose A whether there was foreknowledge or not
You have a choice, but you choose A. You have the freedom but you choose A

You don't lose the freedom just because someone knows you were going to choose A. The contradiction you are so concerned about is not control

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@Off_Grid_Ron @827js He's smart enough to not say the quiet part out loud.

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@dejardinant @MikeWingerii @ralf_vidakovics If you are going to choose A and not B. How does God's existence change that choice?

Your can remove God's foreknowledge and you'd still choose A. This is why your leap in logic is ridiculous. God's foreknowledge has no bearing on your choice.

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@Keoki1958 @JoshuaBarzon Because manuscripts exist where lines that are included in the textus receptus as scripture are written in the margins of older MSS. (Older generally means more accurate)
It's called Marginalia.

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@collinE83 @Sir_Dammed The canon wasn't closed back then. That's why explained why the canon was closed.

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@dejardinant @MikeWingerii @ralf_vidakovics Well formed argument but now explain each point. Why does choosing B prove God wrong?
Because He knows you'll choose A, right?
If there was no God you would still choose A. His foreknowledge won't change your choice.
Foreknowledge is not control, it does not eliminate freewill

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Cannibalism exists in more than 1,500 animal species.
Only one species criminalizes it.
Does atheist logic seem rational now?

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@Keoki1958 @JoshuaBarzon You should read what they are using older MSS. It's not because they are trying to "think" what the original authors wrote, instead they are using simple logic to deduce what is the most accurate

Text was added to the Textus Receptus that the original authors did not write

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@collinE83 @Sir_Dammed The canon was closed because all kinds of people were trying to get Gnosticism and other false teachings into the church and there doesn't seem to be a good reason to keep it open.

Writings that people have attempted to add to scripture is full of false teachings and prophecy

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@collinE83 @Sir_Dammed Back in Exodus.
God commanded the Israelites to know the scripture.
The Israelites added histories, palms, proverbs and writings from prophets to the collection of scripture.

The early church fathers continued that into the councils in the first few centuries.

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@dejardinant @MikeWingerii @ralf_vidakovics Or you could admit that you are making an illogical leap instead of ad hominem attacks...

Choosing A means you cannot Choose B
You choose A
Therefore you cannot Choose B

Where does God knowing you'll choose A take away your choice?

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@hawiaancovefe @AndLazann @5Solas What's the reference?

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@dejardinant @MikeWingerii @ralf_vidakovics It's not a contradiction. You are trying to turn a logical impossibility into a contradiction within the Christian worldview. It's a failed non sequitur because foreknowledge is not control.

God knowing your choices does not mean He controls your will.