@Map003Ward@EODHappyCaptain Apparently, in the US military, they salute not only officers, but their spouses, children and even their vehicles. But not always.
I personally think this is up there with swearing allegiance to a flag 😉
(Australian who was a Reservist for a little while a long time ago.)
I’ve talked about this before, but I very narrowly survived an attempted murder in 2014. It was pretty unpleasant! But my family & I worked very hard to keep the guy out of prison despite this—he was having a psychotic episode and clearly not at fault. However, because he turned himself into the police and confessed, our efforts were ultimately unsuccessful.
It was a very demoralizing and upsetting experience to see just how uninterested in our legal system was in either the humane administration of justice or the concerns of victims/survivors. It really spurred in me a desire for transformative reforms; I’d say it even played a major role in the time I spent (a few years after this) identifying as an abolitionist—I was just so disgusted with the system that “blow it all up” felt reasonable.
But ultimately as I read more abolitionist work, I realized that the programs on offer didn’t seem like they’d actually solve the problems I’d seen; it also became obvious to me that they’d introduce many problems of their own that would be intolerable in practice.
What galled me about the system I saw/interacted with wasn’t that it was institutionalized, formal, impartial, professionalized, centralized. What galled me is how it *failed* to be many of those things—how inflexibly it drove at imprisonment as the only answer regardless of utility.
Instead, what I want is a system that is *actually* impartial and rational and professional, not merely claiming those qualities without embodying them. Also, I struggle to see how “community justice circles” etc would be effective in handling violence resulting from psychosis. I do think the guy who tried to kill me (and did stab me!) would’ve benefited from a period of confinement—but, humane, and medical in orientation rather than punitive. He did really need treatment.
I don’t want policing or prisons to look basically anything like they do in America today, but I do *not* want to devolve this authority to self-appointed cliques by virtue of personal relationships or proximity. That would be its own unbearable kind of tyranny—a decentralized one, sure, but that doesn’t compel me. It’s the tyranny I have a problem with, not the centralization.
And, idk, if you can’t get someone who forgave the person who tried to kill them on board with abolition as a project, I think the political prospects might be rather dim!
@SethAbramson I'm at the stage of "he should have saved his shoes & just appointed a Democrat".
(People may say that would be unamerican, which is fine, cos so am I 😉)