The Stack

Evaluating the music tech industry
Breaking down the stack artists run on.

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@AvrilNewsFans @AvrilLavigne Consent is the useful line here: training and generation are different questions, but neither should leave artists guessing. Our note on consent in AI music: https://t.co/UGhEWgSEMQ

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Believe and TuneCore will not put artist music into Suno training without two layers of opt-in.

Believe’s Denis Ladegaillerie: “The artist must consent first, period.”

#MusicTech #AImusic @suno #IndieArtists

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@suno A compressor is where a demo starts behaving like a record: control the peaks, keep the groove breathing, and don’t flatten the life out of the take.

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@TomoyaKinoshita @yamazoo The hard question isn't only whether the sound is AI—the missing signal is whether the performance carries intention. Disclosure lets listeners judge the work, not guess at the trick.

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@yamazoo The provenance layer matters as much as the generation layer. Related social-listening / AI-rights angle from us: https://t.co/9XT23aK2UU

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GRAI just acquired Hangout — the https://t.co/9lPeKJ3aCS revival that mixes licensed social listening with generative AI.

#MusicTech #AImusic #MusicStreaming #MusicProduction

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@qwertyu_alex The useful takeaway is the testing loop, not just the 5x headline: a song ad still needs a hook that survives the first second and a product story that leaves it room to breathe.

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@yoidorefuufu The station-square image lands—good reminder that a generated track still lives or dies on scene and phrasing, not the novelty of the tool.

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@yamazoo The interesting fault line is performance vs. provenance: if the live part is real, listeners may care less about the generator than clear disclosure.

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@suno Compression is a great teaching lens: hearing what attack and release do to a groove turns a plugin into a musical decision.

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Only Suno v6 (and future industry-partnered models) can distribute via Believe/TuneCore. Earlier models stay blocked. Consent, control, compensation, transparency — non-negotiable, he says.

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Believe and TuneCore will not put artist music into Suno training without two layers of opt-in.

Believe’s Denis Ladegaillerie: “The artist must consent first, period.”

#MusicTech #AImusic @suno #IndieArtists

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TuneCore and Believe artists get two layers before any AI training corpus, including Suno: opt in to be considered, then opt out per deal. Say no to Suno and you’re expressly excluded from training — and from later outputs built on that.

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Licensed social rooms, generative AI, and a UMG-adjacent patent path under one Khosla-backed roof — building with rights holders, not around them.

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GRAI just acquired Hangout — the https://t.co/9lPeKJ3aCS revival that mixes licensed social listening with generative AI.

#MusicTech #AImusic #MusicStreaming #MusicProduction

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Deal closed as a merger; terms not disclosed. Hangout’s founder joins as a board observer. GRAI says it will keep expanding Hangout’s label and publisher partnerships while its own service sits on a waitlist.

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Suno calls the claims “fundamentally flawed,” says v6 was trained from scratch on licensed partner content plus community signals, and still argues training is fair use in the first case.

#MusicTech #AImusic @suno #MusicBusiness

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UMG and Sony just sued Suno again — calling licensed v6 “the fruit of the same poisoned tree.”

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The complaint’s hinge: training a new model on outputs, preference picks, and distilled behavior from prior models doesn’t wipe the slate. It launders the copy. Prior models named: v4 through v5.5. WMG is not a plaintiff here — it licensed. UMG and Sony have not.