@Comic_Snake Overlord forms can not copy data, otherwise Master Overlord would've just copied everyone at once in the final fight (which would've been catastrophic, given Blaze and Silver were there too)
It's funny to me how some people will see Shadow get absolutely humiliated by Super Metal with Sonic's data and still try to argue that he can beat Neo Metal
It's the 500th time we see Shadow's sneak attack, we get it, now please consider the rest of the comics and the new anim
@d2freak05@W666IRD I would like Shadow a lot more if it weren't for him being so overused
He's such a cool character, I wanna see more of him but while doing his own thing, not while he follows Sonic around for no reason
Not to mention that toxic Shadow fans swarm to new content like angry wasps
@lM0RTAL This is pretty much the same as putting current Shadow against classic Sonic and using the ensuing stomp as proof that Shadow is stronger
Pretty much the entire point of Gens is to show that time has passed and the heroes have grown and improved, both as warriors and as people
@lM0RTAL This is pretty much the same as putting current Shadow against classic Sonic and using the ensuing stomp as proof that Shadow is stronger
Pretty much the entire point of Gens is to show that time has passed and the heroes have grown and improved, both as warriors and as people
@rasenburst@TommyCreeper002 Thats equal of cell travelling back in time and kill kid gohan
Shadow fought Metal Overlord from Heroes Era and not only he got stronger since that he also had doom powers
@RakdosEnjoyer I mean, yeah. The fact that Metal can power up like that in the first place is the point. Just like Shadow could power up and become nigh unstoppable, so can Metal, and no single hero from the main cast could deal with either of them in that state, base Shadow included
@Dragonic_Drage Oh yeah, obviously any super form is far stronger than Neo
Some people act like Shadow soloed Super Neo tho, even when we've just been shown that Sonic's data is more than enough for Metal to become unstoppable. Now imagine if he had copied Shadow as well, like he would as Neo
To clarify, Shadow DID do better than everyone else, that's undeniable, but he was still outmatched by a long shot
I'm the first to say that base Shadow could absolutely deal with base Metal, but give the latter an upgrade and it's wraps. I don't see the point in debating facts
The amount of Shadow fans says that he's actually keeping up is hilarious, y'all did we watch the same animation or is there some secret director cut where he doesn't get his ass beat
@landoyysz Regarding Mania Metal (since plenty of people have addressed the other points), it's been stated that he's only powered up by the Chaos Emeralds, but that's not an actual Super form, which he'd need the Master Emerald for
Also, Eggman says this, implying he couldn't do it before
@Comic_Snake Shadow was getting his ass beat by Metal without the Emeralds, too.
Metal here ONLY amped by Sonic's data. Neo's entire shtick is that he copies any opponent's power immediately, and adds it on top of his own, which is why not even Sonic could do anything against him.
@_unknxwn_18 Yes, but Sonic Gens Metal Overlord is the same robot from Sonic Heroes, and Shadow (who already got stronger with time) was massively amped by Doom Powers.
Putting him against Neo Metal is just gonna lead to his bio data being copied and him being defeated. Let alone Super Neo.
I think a lot of yall are forgetting this Metal is practically Sonic^2 not just sonic but evil like of course that nigga would put belt to ass in that circumstance
@Feron323491 This is directly addressed in the comic btw, Starline openly states that Metal only lost because he didn't have an actual plan, like Eggman
Besides, that was literally EVERY HERO IN THE MAIN CAST jumping him, which is kinda funny.
@Feron323491 A win is a win. This is like saying Eggman is actually the weakest character in the series because he uses machines to fight instead of throwing straight hands.
@maskofnova Actually, bio data copying (or life siphoning in this case) works a bit differently
Metal Sonic keeps his original power, and adds Sonic's (or anyone he's copying) on top of it. It's why Neo Metal was able to speedblitz Sonic in IDW: these guys are basically fighting Sonic^2
@Feron323491@Solara_930 This is so funny to me
Yes, Shadow landed a punch. Here's the next comic panel where it shows how that did ZERO damage (and actually just gave Metal his bio data), and here's base Metal holding off Shadow.
Landing a good sneak attack is literally the only Shadow feat mfs quote