Trainman

[Trainman @Trainman844239]

@ClassicCod4ever Now you think I am on about the CR2 megatron... Holy fuck bro how can you have gotten literally everything wrong?

Per the British Armed Forces website:
(Hint: "Combat ready means carrying ammo, crew and armour)

[Trainman @Trainman844239]

@ClassicCod4ever Even now you fail to realise what you said is wrong....

The TUSK is used only in urban environments. And even then, an empty CR2 with no ammunition, operational armour, or crew weighs almost the same as this Frankenstein Abrams only used in exceptional circumstances.

[Trainman @Trainman844239]

I just had to save this for future sake for when I need a good laugh.

The confidence with which he asks me to look up basic facts that he himself gets completely wrong by not realising he is comparing different units of measurement is just perfection...

[Max Prestige Classic COD Groyper @ClassicCod4ever]

@Trainman844239 The heaviest a Challenger can get is 74 tons. The heaviest and Abrams can get is 78 so you are easily wrong on what is arguably some of the simplest stats to even look up.

[Trainman @Trainman844239]

@ClassicCod4ever @guywithapcnegol @stevenQ78611072 @RaceRealistWesk Oh look this retard who cant even get his own facts right is back.

I was talking about the T-80 here you moron, so thanks for clearing up that it was actually bad to see that happen.

Also, this all stemmed from the fact there isnt much evidence of Abrams gettng stuck in Ukraine

[Trainman @Trainman844239]

@guywithapcnegol @ClassicCod4ever @stevenQ78611072 @RaceRealistWesk Yes.... The higher throttle caused more fumes to be pushed through the exhaust, causing all the water vapour and debris to be expelled along with it, hence how I know it was at high throttle.

[Trainman @Trainman844239]

@ClassicCod4ever Under normal circumstances the M1A2 SEP V3 will be 73.5 short tons, or just over 66 metric tons.

Compare that with the 75 metric tons CR2 and once again you have proven yourself to be a colossal retard incapable of the most basic research, independent thought and comprehension.

[Trainman @Trainman844239]

@ClassicCod4ever Please try to get something right for once. You are competing metric with US-short tons.

M1 weighs 78 short ton (70 metric) is when it has bolted on TUSK kits for use in urban environments.

CR2s are 75 metric (82 short ton)

Even with your inflated M1 figures you are wrong...

[Trainman @Trainman844239]

@ClassicCod4ever @guywithapcnegol @stevenQ78611072 @RaceRealistWesk Does it matter if it was able to free itself under its own power after 175 seconds of maneuvering?

But to answer your question, you can hear at the start it was due to driver error.

[Trainman @Trainman844239]

@ClassicCod4ever Compared to the T-72 it is also a lot more of an incline, which is equally as important so I am really not sure what you think you are getting at.

[Trainman @Trainman844239]

@ClassicCod4ever @guywithapcnegol @stevenQ78611072 @RaceRealistWesk I am using it because it was what was sent to me as proof that it doesn't do well in the mud...

Yet the video itself (as well as his other sources) failed at doing that, and two of them in fact proved the opposite.

[Trainman @Trainman844239]

@ClassicCod4ever If you think this is a "dry mud hole" you are honestly a lost cause....

And no, you made an even more dumb claim backing up the assertion the Abrams is "only built for flat terrain" by making the below claim which was even more retarded:

[Trainman @Trainman844239]

@ClassicCod4ever @guywithapcnegol @stevenQ78611072 @RaceRealistWesk Once again... can you get anything right?

I did not post that video. It was posted by the slightly less retarded guy to provide evidence to his claim that the Abrams is useless in anything but flat terrain.

[Trainman @Trainman844239]

@ClassicCod4ever Are you able to get literally anything right?

The CR2 is heavier than Abrams, yet has a less powerful engine, meaning it has a lower power-to-weight ratio.

The video was posted to evidence the claim "once exposed to mud it gets stuck" yet shows it freeing itself in 200 seconds

[Trainman @Trainman844239]

@guywithapcnegol @ClassicCod4ever @stevenQ78611072 @RaceRealistWesk You realise that just proves it was also running at "full throttle", the same as the Abrams was when you used that to claim that it was stuck?

[Trainman @Trainman844239]

@ClassicCod4ever @guywithapcnegol @stevenQ78611072 @RaceRealistWesk A whopping 5% heavier yes...

But as I keep telling you, driving into a peat bog would swallow a car that weighs a single ton.

Neither of you two fruitcakes has yet presented any evidence of an Abrams being in a unique position of being unable to free itself from the mud.

[Trainman @Trainman844239]

@ClassicCod4ever I never said the Abrams was the best tank. I am responding to two retards making claims about them getting stuck in the mud. The evidence for which has so far been:

1. A video of one driving out of the mud

2. A different tank driving into a hole on accident

[Trainman @Trainman844239]

@ClassicCod4ever @guywithapcnegol @stevenQ78611072 @RaceRealistWesk Yet you still havent proven that to be true since your only evidence of "Abrams getting swallowed" was a M88 driving into a water filled hole on accident. You know, the M88 which is a M60, not an Abrams.

[Trainman @Trainman844239]

@ClassicCod4ever @guywithapcnegol @stevenQ78611072 @RaceRealistWesk Who cares where it took place?

You make the retarded statement that "Russian tanks don't get swallowed by mud" then when I prove they do all of a sudden it is fine because they are in a warzone?

As if that is not the single worst place for that to happen...