“But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man’s judgment... he that judgeth me is the Lord.” 1 Corinthians 4:3–4
“There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy... who art thou that judgest another?”
James 4:12
“Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth.”
Romans 14:4
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.” 2 Corinthians 5:10
“For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son.” John 5:22
“And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.” John 5:27
“The LORD shall judge the people... judge me, O LORD, according to my righteousness.” Psalm 7:8
“For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us.” Isaiah 33:22
Full True Christianity was unfit... Yes.
That's why the Apostles were killed, truth lost, and why Neo-Christianity was created in the 2-4th centuries having been Hellenized.
And why God restored the fullness within a country that specifically allowed freedom of religion allowing God to prepare the people in the US for the restoration.
The US was the only Country to afford religious freedom to its citizens.
The Calvinist Magisterium is Real!
Them: "Have you read XYZ books on Calvinism? If not you can't talk about Calvinis."
Also them: "Sola Scriptura, baby!"
Hypocrisy, irony, and inconsistency are designed features of Calvinism.
It's funny to me that their default go to is... "Have you read XYZ book?" Or "How many books on Calvinism have you read?"
Um... Are they Scripture? No. Then why are they required reading?
Like an unofficial magisterium for Calvinists.
It baffles the mind and blatant contradiction of Sola Scriptura.
@snuffybodacious@GoWithJordan_@LukeFHan@ThoughtfulSaint@Mormonger He's a hypocrite... 100%.
Add to it his, and their, constant refrain
Them: "Have you read XYZ books on Calvinism? If not, you have no right to talk about Calvinism."
Also them: "Sola Scriptura!"
... The Calvinist Magisterium is real.
@austinknight@ThoughtfulSaint It’s really just a reflection of the state of Calvinist apologetics right now. It’s unfortunate but maybe it’ll turn a page.
“If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet.” - Proverbs 29:9
You're making some remarkably confident claims.
Let's test them.
You claim there is "zero" evidence supporting the Book of Mormon. Have you personally reviewed the work of John Sorenson, Royal Skousen, Brant Gardner, Matthew Roper, Stephen Smoot, Daniel Peterson, and the hundreds of papers discussing Book of Mormon geography, linguistics, ancient literary structures, Hebraisms, and textual complexity?
If not, how did you conclude there is "zero" evidence?
You claim the Book of Mormon teaches that dark-skinned people are hated by God.
Can you quote the verse where it says God hates dark-skinned people?
Not your interpretation. The actual verse.
Because I can quote a verse that says:
"All are alike unto God, black and white, bond and free, male and female." (2 Nephi 26:33)
Can you produce a verse that says the opposite?
You claim Joseph Smith was a false prophet.
Which prophecy failed?
Please quote the prophecy, explain why it failed, and demonstrate that it meets the biblical standard of a false prophecy.
You claim there is no evidence for Christ visiting people outside Jerusalem.
Can you show me where the Bible says Christ was forbidden from appearing to anyone else after His resurrection?
In fact, Jesus Himself said:
"And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice." (John 10:16)
Who were these "other sheep"? Most Christians agree they were not standing in front of Him at the time. The Book of Mormon simply records one fulfillment of Christ's own statement.
You also keep asserting things the Book of Mormon never actually says. The Book of Mormon does not teach that God hates black people. It does not teach racial superiority. It explicitly teaches the opposite.
At some point you have to do more than repeat anti-Latter-day Saint talking points. You have to actually prove your case.
And here's the deeper issue: Jesus taught that Satan is "a liar, and the father of it" (John 8:44). When someone repeatedly attributes beliefs to others that they do not hold, misrepresents what their scriptures actually say, and attacks strawmen instead of addressing the real claims, that is not the Spirit of Christ. Truth invites examination. Falsehood depends on distortion.
So far, I'm seeing a lot of accusations, but zero evidence.
The burden of proof is still on you.
One persistent mistake critics make is assuming Latter-day Saints are trying to be accepted into the broader Christian world.
We’re not.
The restored Church of Jesus Christ does not claim to be one Christian tradition among many. It claims to be the Church Christ Himself established, restored with authority, priesthood, ordinances, and continuing revelation.
That’s why debates framed around creeds, post–biblical councils, or academic gatekeepers miss the point entirely. Our truth claims don’t rise or fall on acceptance by modern Christianity, Egyptologists, or theologians.
Christianity fractured. Authority was lost. God restored it.
You’re free to reject that claim—but stop pretending we’re auditioning for membership in someone else’s club.
It's funny to me that their default go to is... "Have you read XYZ book?" Or "How many books on Calvinism have you read?"
Um... Are they Scripture? No. Then why are they required reading?
Like an unofficial magisterium for Calvinists.
It baffles the mind and blatant contradiction of Sola Scriptura.
@AreYouEstyWhy@FatherChrisVor1 He is intending to misrepresent what we believe and asserting that baptism in the name of 3 Divine Beings is outside what the Bible teaches. He's flat out wrong. His statement doesn't represent the Trinity.