@stankRat_ If it were the old prestige, before they made it super easy then I could understand not bothering with prestige but given how much easier it is now then I guess they could've. Still think majority of players won't care as this is just seasonal for 6 months or whatever
@axel__tv Streamers can be really dumb, number 4. These seasons are approx 6 months I believe? The vast vast majority of players don't achieve kappa in that time or escape etc etc
@tarkov I prestiged to level 1 when the changes we're made, I was level 40 and setup very well as I had thought that was going to be me until kappa and maybe forever, making it easy was the wrong way to go imo.
There’s a pattern we should talk about that has quietly killed a lot of great games over the years.
It usually pans out like so:
1) Developers listen to players and think they do them a favor by giving them exactly what they asked for.
2) Players love it - at first.
3) After that, for some 'mysterious' reason, players lose interest and the game slowly dies and nobody is quite sure why that happened.
The truth is that players will always push for fewer restrictions. They'll always argue for endless farming, easy power creep, never getting locked out of any content, making things more convenient, removing any sort of gates, etc. etc.
And usually, even if you give in to things that will hurt a game in the long run, you get applause, at first.
But you also just removed some of the very things that made the game special.
Magic in games often comes from limitations.
Scarcity, anticipation, effort, friction... all of these things have meaning. And if you remove those out of the equation, you logically remove meaning.
Christmas is magical exactly because it happens once a year. If you had Christmas every day, you wouldn’t make it better - you’d destroy what made it special.
As a parent, I know how excited my boys are when December hits and they start dreaming about how amazing Christmas will be.
They start talking about which awesome presents they'll receive and every day they come up with new things.
The parents challenge is then to intently listen and to understand what your kid really wishes for - and after thoughtful deliberation, you turn THAT into their present.
You don't give them everything they wanted, you give them what they deep down truly wished for. And that's what makes it magical for them, because you actually spent the time and were thoughtful enough to truly understand who they are.
And the same is true for games.
When everything is always available, then:
- Nothing feels special
- Nothing is worth planning for
- Nothing creates stories anymore
You’ve optimized the fun out of the system.
We’ve seen this over and over:
You remove keys, costs, or gates and players gleefully cheer you on.
But suddenly:
- The gameplay loop breaks
- The economy collapses
- The sense of progression disappears
Another example: social friction.
The magic of early World of Warcraft was that it was basically the first social network.
You had to actively talk to people, organize raids, build relationships and in the process a lot of people created life-long friends.
Then players kept asking for features like LFG and developers caved in with the argument that removing friction is good.
But suddenly, your friends didn't need you anymore. You weren't seen as an important part of their group anymore, you became an annoying obstacle that could be side-tracked. And losing your friends is a horrible feeling, as it should be.
Here’s the uncomfortable truth:
Players are very good at optimizing for short-term satisfaction. But they are incredibly bad at protecting long-term fun.
THAT is the developer’s job.
Sometimes you have to stand your ground and say no. Not to frustrate players, but to protect their experience.
Because if you give players everything they want…
You might be taking away the reason they loved your game in the first place.
@AirwingMarine The mistake is on the people that gifted the subs, when you checked the twitch drops page on day one they weren't listed/shown so I didn't do it, not sure what was so confusing and difficult tbh
@shady_only 3rd person sucks, AI are annoying as hell. Weapons suck, looting is boring and the movement feels clunky. Might be fun for trios but definitely not so for solo imo
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