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Nancy Guthrie Case: Why the Porch Video Can’t Be From 1:47 AM https://t.co/WC0Mbp1axq via @YouTube

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Was Jan 11 a date of interest in the Nancy Guthrie case because the neighbor's cameras "went offline" that day as well as Jan 31/ Feb 1?

Watch ~19:15

https://t.co/0YZ3wGor0y

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@TrueCrime_Inc Great point. And it took them longer to recover footage from the yard cams. Apparently, no person is seen in those clips during the abduction timeframe. So, we're left with the doorbell camera, which *did* capture a person.

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The Nancy Guthrie abduction porch footage cannot be from 1:47am.

By measuring the suspect's shadow length, we can determine the time was approximately 2:20am. At 1:47, the shadow would be about 11 inches shorter.

Watch the analysis here: https://t.co/6Ml0azTlUo

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@TrueCrime_Inc Some "sources" are better than other "sources", for sure!

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How did the suspect in the Nancy Guthrie abduction break the floodlight without being seen?

Nest cameras have a 110° field of vision. This might leave the floodlight in a coverage gap between the two yard cameras.

On Feb 6, we see FBI agents on the roof, inspecting the area from the front to the floodlight. It's possible the suspect climbed on the roof from the front and crawled to the light, breaking it from above.

This would explain why the cameras apparently recorded "nothing suspicious". But it doesn't explain why breaking the light was necessary.

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@Patriotlady03 We're not investigators. We're members of the public, and we don't have all the facts. Because of that, we don't have the right to point fingers at anyone, especially family members, who I believe are victims themselves.

That's my hard line policy.

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LE didn't say the video was from 1:47am. That's just what people have assumed because the timeline said the doorbell camera "disconnected" then.

From what I have found in the Nest documentation, this is more likely to be a WiFi disconnection, not a physical disconnection.

If reports are true and the yard cameras didn't pick up the suspect, the 2:12 "person on camera" event is likely associated with the video clips from the porch. We've maybe only seen a fraction of what was recovered.

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@TrueCrime_Inc Nest is different. Unlike Ring cameras, they record when WiFi is down. And both casita cams are definitely Nest models. That’s why the ABC article’s source said if was “odd” that there’s no footage of the abductor. Strange, huh?

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@PatriceLoughlin If they were already inside, why break the floodlight?

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@Patriotlady03 I’m not going to entertain that idea. No evidence leads in that direction.

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@Patriotlady03 Isn’t 9:48pm when Nancy was dropped off? Wouldn’t Nancy or Tomaso notice a person entering at that time?

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They are battery-powered models, so if WiFi goes down, they continue to record to an internal buffer. Once they reconnect to WiFi, the stored footage uploads to Google.

ABC reported there was yard footage from before and after the crime, just not during it. So, to me, that implies either there was nothing to record or the cameras were physically covered. But covering/uncovering the lens would likely have been recorded. It’s perplexing.

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Here's my issue. The casita cams had IR night vision, just like the doorbell camera. So, they would've picked up the suspect with or without the floodlight. So, how did the suspect get to the floodlight without being seen?

On Mar 11, ABC News reported that investigators saw nothing of interest on those cameras during the abduction timeframe. If correct, that limits the possibilities.

https://t.co/xxYIHclXSJ

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There haven’t been any reports of a serious assault inside. Such a scene would be horrific. The camera simply doesn’t have enough resolution to capture such a scene, had it existed. I believe these shapes are just camera noise, and people see what they want to see.

Part of the mystery of this case is how it doesn’t fit the profile of most violent crimes.

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Did Nancy open her front door and was assaulted by Porch Guy? Nanos only says the perp was “at” her home, never “in” her home.

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Sheriff Nanos' recent interview:

"[Nancy Guthrie was] in her home...in bed asleep, and was woken up to what we see...in the videos, and is removed from the home."

Maybe that's literally the timeline. Perp rang the damn doorbell to wake Nancy, then ripped it off the wall.

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@SusieLomas @YouTube LE did ask the nearby public for video footage from January 11, so they must’ve had some reason for that. Not sure if it’s related to that still photo.

If they couldn’t determine the photo time, they must’ve had some other digital evidence leading them to that date.

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Nancy Guthrie Case: Why the Porch Video Can’t Be From 1:47 AM https://t.co/WC0Mbp1axq via @YouTube

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@TrueCrime_Inc @LibbiXReports I don’t need credit. I didn’t find it. I thought everyone knew about it already!