@zehrakovasel@bulutuzay_ Its ok that my ancestors were forcibly converted, pillaged, graped and murdered. What matters is my current culture, language and shared history.
You put shame on your generation
In 1822, Muslim Turks captured two Greek Christian women and attempted to force them to convert to Islam. The women refused. As punishment, they were smeared with honey on their heads and tied up in the open, exposed to the stings of wasps as well as to the abuse of passersby. The wife of Zafeirakis was built into the wall of the Church of Hagia Sophia in Thessaloniki up to her neck. She was left there for days, exposed to the entertainment of the wild mob that gathered to curse her and strike her protruding head with sticks. She did not waver for a moment. Strengthened until her last breath by prayer, she never abandoned her Christian faith. Her martyrdom lasted five days. A passing gypsy woman, seeking to hasten her end, threw a large stone at her head. Thus, the blessed woman delivered her heroic soul into the hands of God, Whom she had never denied.
The other Greek Christian woman, Maria, also refused to renounce her faith. For this, Ebub Lubut enclosed her in a sack with deadly snakes, where she was martyred.
The historian Eustathios Stougiannakis writes:
"The acute venom that diffused into the veins of the martyr from the bites, however, killed her in a sweet lethargy. Praying until the last moment for her executioners, she invoked the Most High and the Virgin."
The lifeless bodies of these holy women were eventually thrown into the sea.
@ByJimbob You must go to Corfu one day and see his body, truly a miracle in itself. 1600 years and open every day for veneration in the elements. Truly wonderous
Filoque and Not-Filoque cannot both be true at the same time. It's either Per Filium (Through the son) or Filioque (And the Son).
Accordingly, this serpent, which is noetic and, because of this, all the more accursed, the first, middle, and final evil, the wicked one, always feeding off of serpentine and earthly wickedness, the vigilant stalker, tirelessly looking out for the heel, that is to say, deception, the sophist, most resourceful and incomparably ingenious in every opinion obnoxious to God, not having at all forgotten his own evil art, introduces, through the Latins which were obedient to him, innovative expressions concerning God. While these innovations seem to make but a small change, they actually create the occasion for many evils and bring in many things that are subtle, foreign to piety, and logically absurd. In doing this he clearly displayed to all that even the smallest thing is not small in matters concerning God. For if, with each of our arguments, when one fallacious thing has initially been premised many absurdities ensue, how can it not be that, when one uncustomary premise has been made in relation to the common principle of all and to the indemonstrable first principles, from this more absurdities will not irreverently ensue?
Into these adsurdities the race of the Latins would have also fallen manifestly, had we not stripped away the greatest part of the cacodoxy by contradicting this novel dogma. Indeed, on occasion they recoil to such a degree that they even claim that they are of the same mind as us, disagreeing only in words, lying against themselves on account of their awkwardness. For while we say that the existence of the Holy Spirit is not also from the hypostasis of the Son, they say that He is also from the hypostasis of the Son, making it impossible for us to be united in one concept. For, one is the only-begotten and the existence of the Spirit is one. In any event, since the denial is always the contrary to its affirmation, the one proposition is always false if the other is true, and it is not possible to affirm and deny the very same thing about the same subject and be with the truth.
But I think that no one among those with a sound mind15 and not in agreement with them [sc. the Latins], will dispute that they not only speak things contrary to us but also think contrary to us. Nor will such a man dispute the fact that they dogmatize not only against us but also against the very word of truth itself, which has been preserved among us undiminished, and without increase, and entirely unaltered. You all precisely know this without a need for logical demonstration (by ‘you’ I am referring to the fullness of the pious). Nevertheless, God willing, it will also be shown through this present treatise here, so that “every mouth” which disputes this “may be shut”, and those who are ambivalent may be established upon one confession.
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