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@LearningTrade42 @isdatbeef @TMZ All of that is perfectly fair. I’m asking you if the reason for the abortion matters to you

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@ChrisBryan67042 @Jimmy_lovo @TMZ It’s much more akin to a patient who refused treatment than it is a patient barred from a cure

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@justin__1000 @LearningTrade42 @isdatbeef @TMZ Yeah bud. I don’t know what to tell you other than you are factually and demonstrably wrong here.

This has literally been studied and the facts are exactly opposite of what you say

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@LearningTrade42 @isdatbeef @TMZ Sorry. Just to clarify. I’m not asking about a DS pregnancy in the hypothetical. I’m saying perfectly healthy baby. Perfectly healthy social situation.

Purely selfish motive for abortion (whatever you think is most selfish reason).

Would that abortion be morally troubling?

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@LearningTrade42 @isdatbeef @TMZ Hypothetically - let’s assume the reason is purely selfish but there is every clinical indication and social indication that the baby would have a perfectly happy life if it is born - is an abortion in that circumstance morally troubling in your view?

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@LearningTrade42 @isdatbeef @TMZ I gotcha. So your rationale is just the boilerplate abortion argument - not really an argument related to DS? Fair summary of your view? (Not being dismissive - just summarizing)

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@LearningTrade42 @isdatbeef @TMZ So even though they can be truly happier than perfectly healthy people born in perfectly pleasant situations, their own opinion about their lives (which we know w a degree of scientific certainty) don’t matter to you?

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@LearningTrade42 @isdatbeef @TMZ I realize you aren’t advocating for it. I’m just curious why your logic doesn’t hold up in your own mind. Let’s say he is 3 and you can save him from 40 years of misery. Why not do it? What’s the logic? (Keeping in mind this isn’t what you would actually advocate for)

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@LearningTrade42 @isdatbeef @TMZ Should you kill the living ones now to save them from their misery? And if not, why not?

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@LearningTrade42 @isdatbeef @TMZ why does your judgment about their lives matter more than their judgment about their own lives if your justification is how miserable they are? When they ARENT miserable lol

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@LearningTrade42 @isdatbeef @TMZ All of that is true and I haven’t disputed a single point there.

All of that is true and yet they are not miserable; they’re overjoyed w their lives. So if you’re doing it to save them from a miserable life then THEY are the ones that make you out to be a liar.

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@Jimmy_lovo @ChrisBryan67042 @TMZ Can I ask what makes you say that?

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@justin__1000 @LearningTrade42 @isdatbeef @TMZ He or she will be happier with their life than you’ll ever be with yours. That’s not a judgment on you or your life. It’s data collected from people with DS. They’re essentially the happiest people on earth

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@LearningTrade42 @isdatbeef @TMZ How do you prevent it from being born?

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@LearningTrade42 @isdatbeef @TMZ But they aren’t miserable. You’ve picked literally the one population on earth that disprove you. When surveyed 99% report that they enjoy their life, 97% like who they are, 99% like how they look.

People with frizzy hair wouldn’t even give that level of happiness w their life.

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@CNN @Tradwife2222 Well now this just doesn’t sound right. Were the women aware that he has an adorable Celtic knot and dog/lizard/dragon tattoo?

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@LearningTrade42 @isdatbeef @TMZ In Denmark nearly every DS pregnancy is terminated such that only 2-3 babies are born w DS each year.

And your position is that is so much better - not for the parents, but for the children.

You’ve sunk to a level below shame to say the child benefits from its own death

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@Jimmy_lovo @TMZ Yeah I get your point, man. i guess you’re basically saying - if the collection of potential hardships outweighs how confident you are that you’re going to love the kid then you’re justified in ending its life.

Fair summary of your view?

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@Jimmy_lovo @ChrisBryan67042 @TMZ Bro 100% of this app is the entire world posting about things that are not a problem “to them” lol

It’s no more a problem to me than killing the baby is a solution to you, so feel free to stop defending their decision since it has an equal impact on your life as well lol