@0xRozzy Worth noting this only works while rates stay elevated. The 4%+ savings accounts are chasing the Fed funds rate, not offering charity. Still a real gap worth capturing while it's there, just not a permanent one.
"We hope to have this in production in 2023."
Elon Musk. Tesla AI Day. 2021.
Optimus is now working on the Tesla factory floor. In 2025. Running LLM-guided tasks on a narrow set of parts.
Four years late. Still real.
The lesson isn't broken promises. It's that humanoid timelines are almost always off by 2x to 3x, and that includes the people building the robots.
The founders closest to the hardware get it wrong. The skeptics get it wrong the other direction. Nobody has figured out how to forecast this thing.
Which means every confident deployment timeline you're seeing right now, from every company, is a rough sketch at best.
@TheFutureIRL Genuine question for anyone closer to deployments than I am: what's the actual uptime on construction robots like this today? Not spec sheet uptime, actual hours worked per week on a live site.
Both of these point at the same thing from different angles. Reliability at scale is the metric, and 2026-2027 is the window where we'll actually see who cleared that bar versus who just had a good demo reel. Curious which companies people here think are quietly closer to the 99.9% mark than their PR suggests.
Jensen Huang, January 2025:
"Robotics is at its ChatGPT moment."
He's not wrong.
But the ChatGPT moment for text took five years of quiet failure before it looked inevitable.
Nobody remembers GPT-1 stumbling through sentences.
Nobody remembers the labs where nothing worked and the funding was thin.
The humanoid robot version will look the same in hindsight.
Right now we're somewhere in the GPT-2 era.
Impressive enough to get excited.
Not ready to deploy at scale without babysitting.
Most companies claiming otherwise are running on demo conditions.
Controlled lighting. Known objects. Rehearsed tasks.
The real test is unstructured variance. A factory floor that doesn't cooperate. A task nobody scripted.
That test is still failing more than it's passing.
The math in this post explains the incentive. The quoted post explains the mechanism. Nobody needs to solve general robotics if you can pay a human $28/hour to be the robot's nervous system until the model learns the motion. That's the actual bridge, not some breakthrough algorithm.
"The ChatGPT moment for robotics is coming."
Jensen Huang, GTC 2024
He said the same thing about AI in 2012. And 2016. And 2019.
Each time, he was early. Not wrong.
His calls don't age poorly. They age slowly.
The gap between humanoid demos and actual deployed product is still real. Manipulation failure rates alone would shut down any factory line running at real throughput.
But the trajectory is bending faster than at any point in the last 30 years.
@CryptoSliva It already does both. Suno and Udio generate full songs with vocals in seconds. Midjourney portraits win art contests. The question stopped being "can it" a while ago — now it's "can you tell the difference," and increasingly, no.
"Optimus will potentially be more significant than the vehicle business over time."
- Elon Musk, Tesla AI Day 2022
That's a testable claim now.
Three years later: zero Optimus units sold to external customers. Factory deployments are supervised, not autonomous. Tasks are narrow, repetitive, carefully scoped.
None of that kills the thesis long-term.
But there's a massive gap between "potentially, over time" and the way that quote gets shared as if it already happened.
The robots are real. The progress is real. The gap between current capability and "more valuable than Tesla's car business" is also real.
Keep both things in your head at once.
@CryptoSliva Consistency is the actual product here, not the face. Same lighting, same apartment, same dog on schedule — that's a pipeline, not a photo. The tech stack behind "AI influencer" is way more interesting than the influencer itself.
"Humanoid form factor is a mistake. Purpose-built robots will always outperform a general-purpose bipedal machine."
Every major robotics analyst said some version of this in 2022.
Then Figure signed with BMW.
Apptronik signed with Mercedes.
Agility went inside Amazon fulfillment centers.
The wrong-form-factor crowd missed one thing:
Human environments were built for human bodies.
Remodeling every factory and warehouse to fit a purpose-built machine costs MORE than building a robot that already fits the existing space.
The economics of general-purpose won. Not because humanoids are better at any single task. Because they don't require you to redesign the world around them.