@claymaiken@The4ourthBranch That maybe so but you can find PLENTY of material in the bible, and in historical accounts of early Christians themselves, promoting slave morality, which infected European Pagan society with a foreign psychic germ.
@The4ourthBranch@AuronMacintyre Have you read the Genealogy of Morals? It would answer your question better than I could. But in short, Christianity inverted Roman values (patriarchal, honoring the strong) with Jewish ones ("the meek shall inherit the earth").
@The4ourthBranch@AuronMacintyre "Shopkeeper morality," the celebration of the weak and the lowly, the demonization of the powerful. Verily I say unto you that this is the fulfilment of Judeo-Christian values. Ai'nt that America? What do you think "the meek shall inherit the earth" meant? Vibes, papers, essays?
@The4ourthBranch@AuronMacintyre if you actually just take the image at face value, ignoring any propaganda, then it's true. You do not have a Christian West or a WASP Empire if not for the fulfilment of Jewish prophecy, and the transvaluation of Roman values into Jewish ones.
@The4ourthBranch@AuronMacintyre You cannot tell me Christianity is not built on Judaic tradition / foundation / values. I know that you know that Judaism exissted before the 3rd and 8th centuries, and you seem to be arguing in bad faith.
@The4ourthBranch@AuronMacintyre Okay. You win on this tangential point, but it doesn't address the main point. The guy on the TV isn't talking about Rabbinic Judaic roots.
@BarryGlint@AuronMacintyre Okay. All that can be true, and it's still not relevant to the point being made. You are assuming the guy on the TV is talking about Rabbinic Judaism.
@nashionalparks@AuronMacintyre Judaism and Christianity are somewhat divergent, especially the modern forms, but Christianity is a branch from a Jewish root which celebrates slaves. Nietzsche describes it cleanly in Genealogy of Morals and he is not wrong.
@The4ourthBranch@AuronMacintyre I don't know what the guy on the TV screen is actually saying but you cannot tell me Christianity is not built upon Judaic tradition and values. Christianity at its core is revolutionary, and it celebrates the meek and lowly, and, well, read Nietzsche.
@The4ourthBranch@AuronMacintyre I'm not convinced "modern judaism" draws from talmudic law for ethics. Sure, I see plenty of videos of Rabbis preaching talmudic law, but then there are plenty of Christian pastors preaching liberal inclusive law, which comes from Christianity, which comes from...
@AuronMacintyre Nietzsche writes this and I suspect you appreciate a lot of what Nietzsche has to say while ignoring this part; not unlike how you want to appreciate America while ignoring much of what it is.
@AuronMacintyre You cannot celebrate your Protestantism or American exceptionalism while denouncing Protestantism's Jewish roots and ignoring America's strength as a result of its Liberal Commercalism. You want to enjoy the fruit while disavowing the soil. They're one in the same.
@0x49fa98 They'll continue to worship the sacred cows (POCs) even harder, bc if the POC can be "saved" (i.e. have material comforts provided for) then surely they can be saved too. It's a convoluted 'power process'. AI Worship can follow but not if it's perceived to be leaving nons behind