Why $pippin($135M mcap) will flip $ai16z($1B mcap)?
TLDR
1. Pippinās creator, Yohei(@yoheinakajima), has a proven track record with BabyAGI(@babyAGI_ ), is highly respected in Web2, and is a guy whoās always ahead of trends(or to be bold, someone who creates trendsš¤just go compare the timestamps of his GitHub work with Google search trends).
2. Pippinās AI framework is designed for āself-buildingā agents, far beyond simple platform bots. While self-building isnāt fully functional yet due to challenges like third-party integration or memory issue, the framework lays the groundwork to make it possible in the near future.
3. Unlike most AI coins, Pippin will have utility. While Yohei has only shared brief hints so far, itās clear that utility will be one of the focus as the project evolves.
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So who is Pippin? Pippin(@pippinlovesyou) is an AI influencer and digital being, brought to life through AI-generated SVGs, named by ChatGPT, and nurtured by its visionary creator, Yohei. For more on Pippinās origins, do explore Pippin's genesis story here (https://t.co/MIYKSMZisG) In this thread, Iāll mainly focus on the recently open-sourced Pippin AI agent framework and potential $pippin utility.
1. Pippin Framework
Before diving into the Pippin framework, Iād like to first explain what a "self-building" agent is. Since the development of BabyAGI, Yohei has been iterating on several of its core features, including dynamic skills, self-reflection, and graph-based memory. His recent focus has been on creating āself-buildingā agents.
Yohei has shared his thinking on self-building agents, breaking them down into four levels:
- Level 0: No Self-Build. Predefined Skills
At this level, the agent operates with a predefined function library(e.g. skills) created by the developer. When triggered, the agent simply executes an action or produces an answer based on the functions available.
- Level 1: Request-Based Skill Generation
The agent can build its own skills when triggered. In the future, it will be able to use the functions it has built for itself.
- Level 2: Need-Based Skill Creation
When asked to perform a task, the agent evaluates whether it has the required skills. If not, it writes code to build the necessary function and executes it.
- Level 3: Anticipatory Skill Development
At this level, the agent anticipates the skills it will need based on its character or objectives. It proactively writes code, builds the functions, and executes them to fulfill its goals.
Currently, the Pippin framework enables new activity generation, but the self-building of skills is not yet functional. To understand this, consider an example: If you want an agent to be healthy, it needs to āeatā green vegetables instead of instant noodles. The first step is for the agent to understand how to āeat,ā so it can choose what to eat based on the goal of being healthy. In this context, āeatingā is a skill, and actions like āeating green vegetablesā or āeating instant noodlesā are activities the agent can generate, choose, and execute on its own.
For a virtual AI agent, skills might include posting on Twitter, speaking on Zoom, collaborating in Google Docs, etc. Based on these skills, the agent can begin running activities aligned with the objectives itās givenāsuch as generating content to promote the Pippin token(objective) through tweets(skill) or live streaming(skill) with LLM-generated content(activity).
The challenges of building self-building skills are clearāhow do you establish vendor integration, build memory, and so on without human intervention? The Pippin framework is designed with these challenges in mind, with the goal of simplifying self-building and making it a reality in the near future.
Given the current framework, a key question arises: What skills does Pippin have if self-building is not yet an option? The Pippin framework integrates with Composio(@composio), offering 200+ skills and capabilities for AI agents to leverage. These range from social media tasks and collaboration tools to even e-commerce (e.g., Pippin buying me a pizza after I got ruggedā¦). With this, your Pippin will be able to achieve its goals by tapping into a wide range of platforms and skillsāisn't it exciting!
For more technical details, feel free to check out the GitHub page(https://t.co/qs1GJTy2Lc). I've also included a screenshot of the framework below for your reference.
2. Pippin Utility
While Pippinās utility is still evolving, we can get a glimpse of its potential from Yoheiās demo together with the Pippin framework. Users will be able to stake Pippin to become active developers and participate in:
- Quests and competitions
- Submitting solutions to challenges
- Voting on other developersā submissions
Subsequently, there will be three types of quests:
1. Challenge: Be the first to complete a challenge
2. Competition: Be the one to submit the best solution
3. Request: Work as an assigned developer for a specific task
In my opinion, this system is designed to attract and centralize top talent around projects and problem-solving, rather than acting as a traditional launchpad where developers are scattered and competing with each other. This approach is reminiscent of Kaggle, the Web2 machine learning platform that successfully draws the best talent to solve complex problems through collaborative challenges. Iāve shared a screenshot of the quest page below, and for more information, you can watch the Pippin demo video(https://t.co/LY643cAdhC).
Itās just the beginning. Check out the GitHub star history below comparing BabyAGI, Pippin, and ElizaOS(AI16Z)āare you sure you donāt want to jump on the train now? Itās about to take off! šš
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Tinkering with an idea that got me:
> 3.5k views in 24h
> 19% upvote ratio (so you can tell it's not pleasant content lol)
> 31 people writing long essays on why I'm wrong
> 10+ stealth website visitors
Lesson: Bad attention beats no attention every time. The real problem is being ignored.
Plot twist: Reddit haters wrote the most helpful 7-8 line feedback I've ever received.
Worth the roast.
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- boring company: self aware af
- neuralink: says exactly what it is, but with sci fi allure
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Most AI products fail because they're thin ChatGPT wrappers.
Been thinking about what actually works:
The 2x2 matrix of AI transformations:
> Unstructured ā Structured (natural language ā code)
> Structured ā Unstructured (data ā insights)
> Unstructured ā Unstructured (summarization)
> Structured ā Structured (format conversion)
Sweet spot? Unstructured ā Structured with clear validation loops.
Why? You immediately know if it worked. Code runs or doesn't. No ambiguity.
But the real moat isn't the transformation -> it's the thickness of your wrapper.
Cursor and Harvey win because they understand entire workflows, not just single prompts. They accumulate context ChatGPT can't access.
The paradox: Start with one atomic job-to-be-done, but architect for workflow expansion from day one.
Pick something people already do 10+ times daily, suffering through copy-paste with ChatGPT.
The best products create compounding value. Each interaction makes the next one better. Tight feedback loops. Learning from corrections.
If you're building AI products: Stop thinking "what would be cool" and start thinking "what are people already jerry-rigging?"