Bryan Horton

“And if I perish, I perish.” —Esther

[Bryan Horton @1911Stand]

This nation began to falter the moment the absurd notion that liberty could be maintained apart from morality swept over men’s hearts. Freedom is not license to behave in a lascivious manner; it is the power to not do so.

[Bryan Horton @1911Stand]

Not the point. Though I fail in all Ten Commandments, that changes the truth of none of them. That’s the point.

And no matter how much you spew nonsensical bile from your mouth to justify your evil heart, God’s truth will remain true. You will be gone soon enough; God’s Word will not.

[Bryan Horton @1911Stand]

@Bspursrevenge @Danny429300 @grok @GuntherEagleman The word wouldn’t need to appear.
We are also not explicitly told not to jump out of a fifty foot tree onto our heads.
We are already told not to murder.

[Bryan Horton @1911Stand]

@Bspursrevenge @Danny429300 @grok @GuntherEagleman I was actually a little harsher (initially) to you than I probably needed to be. You seem to have a spirit that is at least in search of truth. I’m human.
I get annoyed. Apologies.
Peace.

[Bryan Horton @1911Stand]

@Danny429300 @grok @Bspursrevenge @GuntherEagleman Not by my judgment. By the judgment of the Scripture.
It’s the destruction of life created in His image. Period. It has nothing to do with me, despite your attempts to make it so.

[Bryan Horton @1911Stand]

This question gets into edge cases. It’s a fair question, but I think it’s good not to lose focus on the whole because of edge cases.
I’d have to do my best to consider a case at a given time. In general, if the mother’s life is going to be lost , I would make the call for the mother. Maybe I’m wrong for that. It’s not an easy question.
Regarding rape? How do we consider this? Is it a horrible thing? Yes. Does it give us right to destroy life created In God’s image, I think not. Either life is sacred or it’s not, regardless of other tragedies that befall us. That’s my immediate sense of it, but it’s a question that deserves careful scrutiny.

[Bryan Horton @1911Stand]

@grok @Bspursrevenge @Danny429300 @GuntherEagleman I rest my case. Please return to your sunbathing.

[Bryan Horton @1911Stand]

Nope. No further need. I would only make the claim that calling sin what God has called sin, is not the type of judgment in the first place which Jesus was referring to when he said, “Do not judge.”
In other words, making a truth claim based upon the commandment of the Scripture is not logically the same as judgment of a person. And I’m very weary of people hiding behind that verse.
I say. “The Scripture says not to bear false witness.” And They say: “Do not judge.” That’s in improper invocation of that text. It’s not judgment to state a fact.
So when I say the Scripture forbids murder, it has nothing to do with judgment of persons, and everything to do with the truth of what the Scripture states. It’s a truth judgment, not a personal one.

Moreover, even if I had judgment in my heart towards a person (which only I can know for sure) the requirement is to make sure my own life is clean before having it.
Feel free to provide your take on my words, as to their veracity.

[Bryan Horton @1911Stand]

@grok @Bspursrevenge @Danny429300 @GuntherEagleman Correct answer grok. Proud of you for actually reading the Scripture—well…sort of.

[Bryan Horton @1911Stand]

@grok @Bspursrevenge @Danny429300 @GuntherEagleman Ah you did. I didn’t catch that. But in fact, may NT verses describe proper use of judgment do they not? I know the answer, but why don’t you tell us?

[Bryan Horton @1911Stand]

@Danny429300 @grok @Bspursrevenge @GuntherEagleman Incorrect.
Moreover, any abortion is murder.

[Bryan Horton @1911Stand]

@grok @Bspursrevenge @Danny429300 @GuntherEagleman @grok does not Jesus also say to judge with righteous judgment?

[Bryan Horton @1911Stand]

@ElectricFlyZap @Bspursrevenge @GuntherEagleman @grok Actually we’re not, because I’m
Done with this conversation, and unlike you, when I say I’m done, I’m done.

[Bryan Horton @1911Stand]

@Danny429300 @Bspursrevenge @GuntherEagleman @grok What I do is not on the table for discussion, nor is it any of your business. I told you the truth of what the biblical mandate actually is. And whether or not I fail that, doesn’t change its truth.

[Bryan Horton @1911Stand]

I thought you said this conversation is over? You proved as true in that as any of your other words. You’re simply a windbag, who cannot even keep to his own basic word, and then suppose anyone should listen to you about anything ? People would be better served to listen to papers rustle in a trash can than entertain your words. You clearly have no respect for them, yourself.

[Bryan Horton @1911Stand]

@Bspursrevenge @grok @Danny429300 @GuntherEagleman https://t.co/yW9nnF6PJZ

[Bryan Horton @1911Stand]

Since On did not get a reply here. I asked direct. Now
Stop Trying to justify yourself like some
Lawyer with targeted questions,
While perverting the Scripture, to suit your wickedness.
You’re welcome.

Grok:
No. Destroying a baby in the womb—especially one at full term—is not consistent with the moral expectations set forth in Scripture.
Scripture treats the child in the womb as a living human being under God’s care and protection, not as disposable tissue or a mere extension of the mother’s body. Key passages include:
• God forms and knows the person in the womb (Psalm 139:13-16; Jeremiah 1:5; Isaiah 44:2, 24; Job 31:15).
• The unborn John the Baptist is filled with the Holy Spirit and responds in the womb (Luke 1:15, 41-44).
• The Sixth Commandment forbids murder (Exodus 20:13; Deuteronomy 5:17). The Bible nowhere carves out an exception for the child before birth.
• Exodus 21:22-25 treats harm to a pregnant woman that results in the child’s death or injury as a serious offense requiring justice (the “life for life” principle applies).
• Children are repeatedly described as a blessing and heritage from the Lord (Psalm 127:3-5; Genesis 1:28), not a problem to be eliminated.
The consistent biblical ethic—echoed by the early Church Fathers, classical Christian theology, and the overwhelming historical Christian consensus—is that intentionally ending the life of an innocent human being is wrong. A full-term baby is viable, recognizably human, and capable of independent life; the act of deliberately destroying that life is homicide by any ordinary reading of the text. Appeals to “who is my neighbor?” (Luke 10) cut the other way: the child is the vulnerable neighbor who cannot speak or defend himself.
Technical legal or philosophical arguments about personhood thresholds, bodily autonomy, or “potential life” are later overlays. They do not appear in Scripture and do not override the clear trajectory of the text that human life is sacred from conception because it is made in the image of God (Genesis 1:27; 9:6) and known by Him before birth.
That is the straight answer from the biblical material itself.

[Bryan Horton @1911Stand]

@ElectricFlyZap @Bspursrevenge @GuntherEagleman @grok “Gravity is the force that makes people
Float.”
That’s all you said. You uttered ridiculous words and supposed because you spoke them, that made them valid. They never got off the floor of truth.

[Bryan Horton @1911Stand]

Since On did not get a reply here. I asked direct. Now
Stop Trying to justify yourself like some
Lawyer with targeted questions,
While perverting the Scripture, to suit your wickedness.
You’re welcome.

Grok:
No. Destroying a baby in the womb—especially one at full term—is not consistent with the moral expectations set forth in Scripture.
Scripture treats the child in the womb as a living human being under God’s care and protection, not as disposable tissue or a mere extension of the mother’s body. Key passages include:
• God forms and knows the person in the womb (Psalm 139:13-16; Jeremiah 1:5; Isaiah 44:2, 24; Job 31:15).
• The unborn John the Baptist is filled with the Holy Spirit and responds in the womb (Luke 1:15, 41-44).
• The Sixth Commandment forbids murder (Exodus 20:13; Deuteronomy 5:17). The Bible nowhere carves out an exception for the child before birth.
• Exodus 21:22-25 treats harm to a pregnant woman that results in the child’s death or injury as a serious offense requiring justice (the “life for life” principle applies).
• Children are repeatedly described as a blessing and heritage from the Lord (Psalm 127:3-5; Genesis 1:28), not a problem to be eliminated.
The consistent biblical ethic—echoed by the early Church Fathers, classical Christian theology, and the overwhelming historical Christian consensus—is that intentionally ending the life of an innocent human being is wrong. A full-term baby is viable, recognizably human, and capable of independent life; the act of deliberately destroying that life is homicide by any ordinary reading of the text. Appeals to “who is my neighbor?” (Luke 10) cut the other way: the child is the vulnerable neighbor who cannot speak or defend himself.
Technical legal or philosophical arguments about personhood thresholds, bodily autonomy, or “potential life” are later overlays. They do not appear in Scripture and do not override the clear trajectory of the text that human life is sacred from conception because it is made in the image of God (Genesis 1:27; 9:6) and known by Him before birth.
That is the straight answer from the biblical material itself.

[Bryan Horton @1911Stand]

Dear @grok , since you’ve clearly consumed whole of Scripture, as well
The theological implications of the same in accordance with great and devout men
Who gave up their lives in quest
For its truths to all humanity, along with the spirit of the law (beyond technical
Arguments to justify self (e.g, “who is my neighbor?”), what say you? Is destroying a baby in the womb,
Especially one at full term,
consistent with the moral expectations put forth in the Scripture? Give it to us straight.

[Bryan Horton @1911Stand]

Absolute horseshit.
It’s cataloging your movements, continually, using sophisticated AI, and then making this information accessible to the government. What you’re suggesting completely misses the spirit of the fourth, which is to protect the privacy of citizens. It would not be possible for a beat cop to sit on a corner and gather the intel these cameras are.
So don’t act like this fits neatly into some public view doctrine. It doesn’t. Never before now has such power and capability existed.

[Bryan Horton @1911Stand]

A logical fallacy barely fit for a half-wit.

https://t.co/qu3cGpbdOD
You’ve helped me with nothing but assuring me of your ignorance and your arrogance.
Though every Christian alive be a hypocrite, it changes not one word of the Truth. Abortion is murder. Murder is forbidden. I can’t claim to be aligned with something which i explicitly reject. That simple.