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Trying to retire from discourse

[Lee’s Ghost 🐬 @200salamanders]

@fulop_dan @ochelkasher @History__Speaks It’s not “singling out” to point out there’s no evidence of vernacular, secular Hebrew use in Ashkenazi communities.

It’s only singling-out if you think Ashkenazi culture is shameful.

[Lee’s Ghost 🐬 @200salamanders]

@fulop_dan @ochelkasher @History__Speaks Claiming Levantine-ness through a culture you don’t belong to (Sephardic, Romaniote, Mizrahi cultures) is silly.

It’s not hateful to point out the vast majority of Anglophone Jews don’t have a history of speaking Hebrew post-exodus.

[Lee’s Ghost 🐬 @200salamanders]

@fulop_dan @ochelkasher @History__Speaks The “obsession” is because Ashkenazim founded the state of Israel. Ashkenazi being Levantine is the central claim of the State of Israel.

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@ochelkasher @History__Speaks What caused mass Egyptian migration in the 19th century and what’s the evidence of it?

The idea that Palestine had nothing of value in the 19th century is a central Israeli claim.

Why were Egyptians migrating to brown deserts and malarial marshes?

[Lee’s Ghost 🐬 @200salamanders]

@fulop_dan @ochelkasher @History__Speaks Either you believe in blood+soil claims from genetics (meaning Palestinians have a claim too) or you believe it comes from culture (excluding Ashkenazim)

[Lee’s Ghost 🐬 @200salamanders]

@fulop_dan @ochelkasher @History__Speaks And?

Either a religion contributes to your connection to a place or it does not.

No one has provided evidence of secular Hebrew among Ashkenazim.

[Lee’s Ghost 🐬 @200salamanders]

@ochelkasher @History__Speaks Ok, which group(s) replaced the Levantine population in levels not seen without genocide?

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@ochelkasher @History__Speaks I disagree. Basically no historic conquest has replaced the genetic population 70%+ percent. Turks in Anatolia, Saxons and Normans in Britain. Not even with mass migration.

If Levantine Arabs are in fact 70% peninsular, the massacres should be very well attested in history

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@ochelkasher @History__Speaks I have no doubts Ashkenazim can be distinguished from Italians, that still doesn’t explain how they cluster closer to Italians than East Med populations

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@fulop_dan @ochelkasher @History__Speaks Ashkenazi Jews did not have a spoken or vernacular Hebrew before Modern Hebrew was constructed in the late 1800s.

I have no doubt religion is, my point is Christian Europeans also follow a Levantine religion.

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@ochelkasher @History__Speaks Why do Ashkenazim cluster closer with Sicilians and Sardinians than Lebanese or Greeks?

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@ochelkasher @History__Speaks What is the historic and genetic evidence that so many levantines were killed and replaced that they make a minority of modern Muslim ancestry?

None of those examples are in Ashkenazi Europe, where the founders of political Zionism and most Anglophone Jews descend.

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@ochelkasher @History__Speaks Once again, there’s no reason why a group that has a smaller portion of Levantine ancestry, had no Levantine language or culture is Levantine.

Religion? Christianity is from the Levant too!

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@ochelkasher @History__Speaks “Most Palestinian clans” and genetics being 70+% Levantine don’t add up.

Neither does~ 10% of Levantine Arabic speakers being Christian (doubt that’s Saladin’s doing).

19th-20th century Jews were under European royal banners.

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@lymanstoneky A lot of people decrying apartment dogs only let their dogs out like an hour a day

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@lymanstoneky Agree, but most suburban dog owners aren’t really better.

Unless you let your dog spend hours in a large, fenced yard with enrichment items when you aren’t actively exercising them, they aren’t automatically benefiting from your single-family home.