@2020Santiagom I also agree with you Santi. If we blame Eddy’s father, we should also blame Eddy too because he didn’t talk about his issues with his father. Both of them did not do anything wrong. They just don’t have the bonding between them. There’s lack of communication.#lincpsych
@2020Alvaros@2020Ernestou The study was then pulled out by the triplets at age 40 something I believe. Therefore, I think that there might be unethical studies out there in the world that no one has clue about it. Maybe it would not be revealed forever.#lincpsych
@2020Alvaros@2020Ernestou I totally agree with Varo’s and Ernesto’s opinion. However, I would also like to address that maybe there are still studies that are unethical to do, but researchers still performed them secretely. Taking in account for the triplets study, no one knew about it.#lincpsych
@2020Ernestou I agree with you Ernesto. Culture definitely plays an important role in the triplets behavior. The Jewish culture can also be a vulnerability factor that play a role in Eddy’s suicide. #lincpsych
I believe that part of Eddy's death was triggered by the negative schemas, Beck's theory of depression in cognitive approach, that he holds from his childhood experience, David's father's death, and Bob leaving the business. #lincpsych
@2020Marianaq I totally agree with Mariana. Maybe he was thinking that since he was not the one who started the experiment, so he doesn’t feel responsable for it. However, he could have stopped the study by suggesting ethical standards to the main researcher.#lincpsych
@2020Maryannw Therefore, Eddy had high expectancy of the triplets bond than other people. Finally, bobs separation led him to commit suicide because his “happiness” is believed to be over.#lincpsych
@2020Maryannw I agree with you Mary Ann. However, I believe that nurture plays a bigger part in shaping the triplets behaviors. For example, Eddy’s behavior was strongly shaped under his father’s rules. At a very young age, he felt insecure with the family love.#lincpsych
Those life events builds up little by little making Eddy to ruminate and establish a negative world in his mind. I believe that his depression started at a very young age under his father's rules. Eddy's rumination leads to him to develop depression symptoms. #lincpsych
@bridgetkoehler@2020Alvaros Therefore, when Bob decided to leave the business, the loneliness from Eddy’s childhood arouse again making him think negatively about the future, self and the world (negative cognitive triad)as what Becks’ depression theory says in the cognitive approach. #lincpsych
@bridgetkoehler@2020Alvaros I would say that Eddy has always wanted peace between the three family since his childhood was not very happy. He did not have a good relationship with his adopted family. He always wanted the three of them to be bond as strong as possible. #lincpsych
@2020Santiagom I agree with you Santi. I also want to mentioned that David’s father also play a big role in the triplets because he was like the father of the triplets that gave them support and love that Eddy and Bob was searching for. David’s father’s death also impacted Eddy.#lincpsych
One last concern is the protection from harm. In the document, they mentioned that Eddy felt that he didn’t fit in the family. This is also one of the biggest factor that led Eddy to commit suicide. The study lacks protection from harm in many aspects. #lincpsych
There are many ethical concerns in the study. The first one is debrief, the researchers didn’t informed the participants about the nature and the tru aims of the study. #lincpsych
The third concern is the withdrawal from participants. This is very similar to the informed consent. The participants can’t withdraw from the experiment since they don’t know that they were in a experiment. I believe that if they had the choice, they wouldn’t continue.#lincpsych
Second ethical concern is informed consent. The participants didn’t participated voluntarily in the study, they were put in the study by force since birth. This leave them no choice of choosing to do the experiment or not.#lincpsych
One protective factor seen in the document is the way how David’s father interacted with the triplets. He gave them supports and love. It is essential that he is a role father for the triplets. Moreover, his actions decreases the risk of developing depression. #lincpsych
However, David’s father died before Eddy’s suicide. This can draw into conclusion that the lost of a love one might also led to Eddy’s suicide since he has always considered David’s father as his father because he didn’t has a connection between him and his father. #lincpsych