@DustinGouker I don't think they explicitly said it. In the Q&A on their last earnings call, they implied their guidance for 2024 assumed no market share gains. So if they were 7% in the last months of 2023, then that's probably what people are referencing
@gamblinglamb@BradAllenNFL Or that 20% being based on GGR was largely BS because it was really just measuring how much were you willing to spend on marketing/promos relative to DKNG/FD
@gamblinglamb It's down because the market thought he'd be allowed to come back and give 888 possibly the best management team in the industry. Now they're back to having no management team, too much debt and another license review!
@gamblinglamb@YorkshireFlint I would guess that it's still in the billions. It's early but from the state numbers, it feels like Bet365 has probably burned $50mn+ in 4 months in one state to grab 7-8% GGR share and I imagine that share will drop once they stop spending 100% promo/GGR.
@gamblinglamb@YorkshireFlint Well even if they bring over the better platform, is it too late? Like how much $$ do you have to invest in marketing to grab 5-10% share at this point? Feels like the answer is probably billions and none of the EU guys have the balance sheet to pull it off
@gamblinglamb@YorkshireFlint I can confirm that the other apps are really that bad. I don't understand how William Hill, Unibet, etc. have captured significant share in Europe if the products are comparable to the products they offer in the US.
@gamblinglamb Probably. It was obvious to me that ever since the activist requested a sale of the business last year that Henrik was pretty strongly against that idea.
@gamblinglamb Perhaps we're all just resigned to the best case scenario being that the Gambling Act Review accelerates the death of third tier online casino, moves some share to the big boys and the market is LSD growth thereafter.
@gamblinglamb Maybe. In the same quarter FD did +$22mn EBITDA, DK did -$118mn (including $135mn SBC so really -$253mn). Feels like a long way to go. Also, they're the only one that has some reasonable probability of needing to raise equity.